Do you defend starvation as a weapon in Gaza?

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  1. Tipper101

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    if israel couldn’t distinguish between the two everyone would be dead.
     
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    You are claiming that it was not immoral for us to target civilians, and not immoral for Israel to target civilians . . . but it is immoral for Hamas to target civilians. If you really believed what you were saying, you wouldn't be criticizing Hamas. You'd just be throwing up your hands and saying, "Well, that's just them trying to win."
     
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    So here’s what happens. The adults move the children. Guess you’ve never been a parent? I’m confused how you don’t know adults are in charge of children
     
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    No I didn't say that. I said it was immoral to have the attitude to demand that Israel aid and supply the same enemy wanting to destroy them.

    Hamas is at war and will implement any measures to win that war. That includes sacrificing Palestinians, targeting Israelis.

    Israel can only defeat the Palestinians and Hamas if they do what it takes to defeat them.

    Making sure their enemy is well fed and supplied is not a commensense strategy to defeat their enemy. Only the enemy of Israel would suggest that.
     
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    They have been moving fast in that direction.
     
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    27,000- 10,000 dead Hamas = 17,000 dead assuming terrorist numbers are to be believed.

    17,000 dead out of 2.3 million and 4 months = .7% of the population which will take Israel about 50 years to kill everyone.

    half a century in a tiny little spit of land to complete the genocide is “fast” to you? Lol what would be slow?
     
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    Yes it was. It was also pointless. Hitler was actually happy when the civilians were bombed instead of his military industrial capacity. In the end the process hardened the population against surrender and extended the war causing higher casualties. Not to mention all of the bomber crews who died bombing civilians instead of military industrial capacity. In the end, Germany fought to the bitter end.

    If you read the after-action reports in WWII, this becomes obvious and clear.

    The ruthless bombing of Korea was far worse and we still have North Korea and a population which is still ruled by the Kims. North Vietnam was bombed. Iraq was bombed. We rebuilt it and bombed it again. And we are bombing it again.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

    Success occurs when the U.S. behaves peacefully. Japan did not become our friend because we bombed them. They became friendly because we were friendly. Germany did not become our friend because we bombed them. They were friendly because we were friendly.If every few years, we fire-bombed Germany and Japan for some perceived slights, they would not be our friends and I'm sure we would be getting terrorist bombings from them instead of BMWs and Toyota's.
     
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    Do you have a list of names for the dead Hamas or are you making that number up?
     
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    Israel has controlled the flow of food into Gaza for a very long time. It is an issue that should have been addressed before now. That said, I am conflicted about whether or not this is a specific strategy to starve them into submission or whether i is just a byproduct of making sure the bad guys can't flee or obtain more weapons coming in. While I generally support the right of innocent people in Gaza from being targeted, on this issue, there isn't enough clarity for me to make that call.
     
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    That’s what Israel is reporting. Do you think they made it up? Are you only willing to accept terrorist numbers but not Israel?

    Imo if we are to accept the Hamas total dead at 27,000 it’s reasonable to accept the Israeli number of 10,000 dead Hamas
     
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    I framed a picture I got of an Israeli tank chasing a Palestinian youth who was throwing rocks at it.
     
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    Where were these bleeding hearts when 500,000 Rwandans were slaughtered. Oh yah, didn't fit their agenda!
     
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    Maybe, those that stayed behind and didn't vacate were either supporting Hamas or actual Hamas terrorists..
     
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    A wonderful use of tax dollars.
     
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    Thats exactly what a Palestinian genicide will look like given about 6 months more time. Many of us would like to see a dramatic shift in strategy and tactics beforehand.
     
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    UN Sources (rolls eyes) and written in January. Well after humanitarian aid (including food, water, and medicine) was delivered. Do you always quote the UN and old news when trying to make some lame point?
     
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    17,000 dead civilians in 4 months equals 42,000 in 6 months not 2.3 million. Your math is really bad…
     
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    Israel has already been convicted of war crimes, in 2013, just as Pfizer pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud in 2004 and 2009.2013 Law Suit: Israel Tried and Found Guilty of War Crimes and Genocide - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

    Both entities are habitual offenders. Yes, genocide is a war crime.
     
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    Nobody care what some kangaroo Islamic court found. Especially since it was all lies to begin with.
     
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    The head of the ICJ is an American. Has America gone Islamic?
     
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    Lol.
     
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    No people on Earth would live peacefully under the conditions Israel has imposed on Gaza for decades.

    The length of Israel's war on Gaza is longer than the average age of citizens of Gaza.

    People like to pretend that this war started with the terrorist raid in October 2023. But, that's total BS. The Israeli blockade is a decades long continuing act of war that has left the citizens of Gaza starving and without being allowed an economy.

    Then Israel whines when Gaza fires some missiles that can't even be targeted - an excuse for Israel to slaughter civilians, deny them electricity, food, water and healthcare.

    This IS genocide.
     
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    Of course not. No civlilized people would do that or support genocide.
     
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    It's war. It's what happens when the bombs land regardless of who fires them.
     
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    What silly nonsense deflection .. "Its War" .. "Its what happens when bombs land regardless of who's firing" ..

    No it isn't .. a war crime every time a bomb is fired .. or a war action is taken .. Even in war there are rules .. and this is about whether or not those rules have been broken .. constituting war crimes / crimes against humanity. This latest effort to poison the water supply yet another example of such crimes.

    As the Irish Delegation to the UN says . "The Hague is too good for Bibi" .. actions in which Genocide Joe is complicit... souring the name of the USA yet again.
     

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