Lakewood Church shooting suspect identified as transgender woman; 'Free Palestine' written on gun

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  1. grapeape

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    yes it is. Its guns in the hands of mentally unstable people. So can we stop selling guns to unstable people ?
     
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    Well again, the law is on the books already sounds like they didn't notify the fbi, who does the background checks. Thank god she didn't use her car.
     
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    We're America. We cant stop **** from happening. All we ever do is complain about it afterwards.
     
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    The first word in red was missing an r
    The second was a typo

    The individual was a female
    She/her

    If those two errors caused my post to be completely incomprehensible to you then there are other issues you should look into.
     
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    The story is getting more bizarre. I am not sure what to believe about it. Maybe she was nuts; maybe her former in-laws drove her nuts; maybe the child's father was a sex offender who diddled children; maybe the shot child was one of his victims; maybe the child's grandmother was exploiting her to aggravate her mental illness so she could get custody. It appears to be somehow tied into domestic issues. Beyond that, a lot of crap going around on the web that is hard to sift through and reconcile.
     
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    Thats the whole point. WHY cant we stop her from buying a gun ?

    Its not a "gotcha" question, its a serious question
     
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    Agreed.

    We refuse to help ourselfves because....well you know... the NRA lobby is too lucrative
     
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    So, since the mother in law of this person said the person had once been pregnant, does that mean that transgenders can now now reproduce -
    or, as less insane people might say - seems that the woman was indeed a woman and your reports of "transgender" might be premature?
    If it turns out she was actually a woman, will you appologize to the forum?
     
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    Well that's a contributing factor on a legislative level. There are others. Such as at the enforcement level where functional mitigation strategies are focused through a lens of outrage when certain types of people become a catalyst for statistical volume. On a status quo level the hard truth is that regardless of these acts of terror the primary, non-sporting purpose of a firearm is self defense, and in America the demand for self defense is at all time high. Then at the social level, and thanks to our hyper-political landscape, the barrier for cooperation is the same with this issue as it is with any other.
     
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    We can stop them from running loose in public. We used to do that. That is why we had so few mass shootings compared to today.
     
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    No it isn't. And what law can you suggest to prevent your incorrect diagnosis from occurring anyway?

    You don't have one.
     
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    NRA isn't preventing it at all lmao. They have simply become a scapegoat for the uninformed.
     
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    It is already illegal for a person to buy or a dealer to sell a firearm to a person with mental issues. The problem is that it is done on the honor system. The buyer has to fill out a form that asks the question. People lie. You can't afford to do a background check on every person buying a gun. If the person lies, they get the gun just like Hunter Biden did.
     
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    At a point when people stop lying on federal forms.
     
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    The answer is we can, and we do, every day. What we don't do in America is take away others' rights because grapeape or any other random person says your crazy. I know you're desperately trying to get agreement that the system is broken so we should take rights away from American but I'm not into to taking your nor anyone's rights' away so easy. For some reason I doubt if this he/she would have done real damage and run-down innocent people congregating outside with the car, you would have been on here questioning if she should have a right to drive. Political crazy is also trying to use every event to take away others' rights in my view.
     
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    The same one we use for felons.

    The idea that EVERYBODY, no matter what their mental state should have a right to own/buy a gun is ridiculous on its face.
     
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    Really…The NRA who lobbies and gives campaign contributions to pro-2a candidates ?
     
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    If they're that unstable they shouldn't be on the street to buy a gun in the first place.
    Same with people who have committed crimes. If they're that dangerous, lock them up.
     
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    The NRA isn't who you want. Its FPC, NAGR, GOA, and a few state affiliates who are pulling water these days.

    The NRA is just a stalking horse for you rubes to concentrate on.
     
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    so now you are going to deny the 2A rights to those who claim to be the opposite sex? Wouldn't having a penis but claiming to be female put you into the category of "mentally unstable" ?
     
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    HEAR HEAR

    someone who understands the Constitution

    Ben Franklin said it best "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
     
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    So we should lock people up because they are “unstable”, without committing a crime, but we CANNOT stop them from buying a gun.

    C’mon man…
     
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    The NRA is a lobbying group who buys politicians…..
     
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    Don’t worry, we wont stop selling guns. Even to those “mentally unstable” personas who seek to do harm.
     
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    you dodged

    Does being born with a penis but claiming to be female qualify as being "mentally unstable" ?
    You raised the point and now we simply seek from you a response if the above meets the criteria
     
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