Former FBI informant charged with lying about the Bidens’ role in Ukraine business, undercutting GOP

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    His lies were from 2020. Why was trump wasting our money on these lies? Did they know they were lies? Did they ask him to lie? Sad!
     
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    No not in itself. The facts matter. Is there evidence he lied or not?
     
  3. Nemesis

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    LOL!

    Yeah, that Weiss...initially appointed by the Orange Shitstain.....is just soooo desperate to lie for "the Bidens".

    There's nothing compelling in that "mountain of evidence" now that Smirnov has been outed as a lying liar who tells lies. That was the foundation of the case against squeaky clean Dark Brandon. If the GOP still pursues this ****, it'll be more obvious than ever that they're duty-shirking nutcases.
     
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    He said without evidence...
     
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    That’s what a trial will determine.
     
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    Lying involves intentionally doing so. The Steele Dossier was not known to be false, only unsubstantiated. That is not a lie. That is very different. Police often rely upon unsubstantiated claims to have probable cause to investigate something to see if the claim is true. That's how investigation works. In many cases, the claims are not substantiated. That doesn't mean their source was lying, though. They could have been mistaken, misunderstood, or were lied to themselves, or what they said was true it just can't be proven.
     
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    lol no not everything. But it's fine. No worries keep setting these precedents. I love it
     
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    New precedent! It’s now illegal to lie to the FBI lol
     
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    Evidence that is used to obtain a warrant is required by law to be substantiated.

    Steele knew the information was a lie. He didn't care and neither did the FBI.
     
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    No go ahead and do it. Cause when we get back in power and yall accuse us of something illegal and we arrest the key witness so you're not allowed to question him, just remember yall set the precedent.

    See here's the problem. Y'all are short sighted. All yall see is get Donald Trump by any means necessary and to hell with any ****ed up precedent you set to get there.

    Personally I don't give a **** about Donald Trump. You can throw him in prison for 7000 years along with his family and minor children. I don't give a fat babies ass on a personal level what happens to Donald Trump. Trump is just the mechanism by which the hardcore extreme right has woken up. If you throw him in prison we are just going to replace him with someone more extreme.

    But I will say this y'all have given us an incredibly useful (albeit grossly immoral and underhanded) and potent set of tools and precedents for us to invoke in the future when we have an ACTUAL extremist in charge and not just one you folks are trying to fabricate into one.

    Let me also add I don't give a damn about this election. In fact I'd prefer if the democrats won so we got 4 more years of their policies to ensure a win in 2028. The likelihood of a SCOTUS appointment from 2024-2028 is going to be relatively low. At most maybe one. But in 2028 you're looking at probably 2-3 scotus seats being appointed.

    So my preference is actually for a democrat win in 2024. I would only care about a Trump win to watch the left lose its collective minds and show us what an actual insurrection looks like. But that's not nearly as important as winning in 2028. Plus it more time for yall to set some ****ed up precedents for us to use lol

    Furthermore a Trump win would prob cause us to lose in 2028 because he's going to be a real major ******* if he wins. Which I'm going to love but probably isn't going to help the republicans at the polls in 2028.
     
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    What lie?

    Oh nobody knows? Oh so you mean we can just say your guy lied and then charge him and you can't question us anymore. Right?

    I'm cool with that.
     
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  12. The Mello Guy

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    Articles out there lay out what he lied about. But don’t start pretending you care now.
     
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    For years y’all have said the DOJ and fbi are secret dem agents so why would we worry?
     
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    Yeah I've read it. So basically he said Biden was involved and Biden's DOJ is saying that's a lie we are going to charge him so now he can't be questioned by you anymore.

    What would you say if Trump did that?
     
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    Oh don't worry we are going to fire your guys and hire our sycophants
     
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    Regardless of the Trump appointee's personal animus for the President, it was found that Biden, who reported the presence of the documents himself, neither tried to conceal them, nor lied about having them. It was not just that Biden and Pence had some files they should not have. It was Trump's failed attempt to conceal that he had absconded with far more and refused ti return them that nailed the Loser.
     
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    Except that's not what happened.

    BOTH Trump and Biden had classified records. BOTH Trump and Biden returned batches of those records. BOTH Trump and Biden had MORE documents than they originally sent. They BOTH invited the FBI to come and search through the documents with their lawyers. The FBI then raided Trump WITHOUT requesting the rest of the documents but didn't raid Biden.
     
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    Also lemme point out... he charged this guy quick didn't he? Took him 5 years for Hunter. What was it a couple months for this guy, if that?
     
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    Your false account is contradicted by the facts.

    That is why the loser has had indictments against him recommended by grand juries, and the President and Pence have not, not because everyone is being mean to Trump as he keeps whining to his lickspittles.
     
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    I’ll remind you again, Hunter has been charged and is still being subpoenaed. Surely the gop still has all the evidence of his claims that hep provided lol
    Oh yah, there wasn’t any lol
     
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    Like when trump fired Comey? McCabe? Sessions?
     
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    This was one of the guys trump appointed, weren’t you just telling me how that would clean things up? lol
     
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    Like I said before. Trump was not the extremist you all make him out to be. He was actually putting people in that were middle of the road. People who turned on him.

    But I'm pretty sure he's learned his lesson
     
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    This is about the Joe and Hunter Biden investigation. It’s looking more and more like a failed frame.job attempt that reaches back to 2017. Weiss is the special counsel referenced.
     
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    He does, but you don't.
     

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