Dominion voting machines hacked with a pen in front of a judge????

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cool story! So did this person hack the voting machine with a pen? YES or NO?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    been saying forever, count all votes both manually and digitally (remember Ivanka got voting machine trademarks from China)


    but the company name Diebold that promised Bush the election changed their name right, so that means everything is better, the negative votes Kerry got were just a fluke </end sarcasm>

    I do not see why we can not count BOTH manually and electronically and use those two methods to validate each other, don't people want honest results

    even letting people insert their vote card in two separate machines that are used to validate each other is better than what we have now, putting all of our faith in ONE PERSON is crazy (corps are people too, remember)
     
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  3. Zorro

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    I understand that some pathetic Dems think they can steal the election from the voters, but, it looks to me like Fani's misconduct sucked the GA effort, cosmically speaking, down a black hole.
     
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    They know the election was rigged, they just want to stomp on any discussion of it, and steal the election from the voters, by deciding it in the courts.
     
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    Lying Jack Smith Is in a Big Hurry, But He Can't Say Why

    Lying Jack Smith wants to rig the election with a felony conviction.

    'But here’s the problem for Smith. The Justice Department forbids prosecutorial interference with elections. The guidelines are very clear: “Federal prosecutors and agents may never select the timing of any action, including investigative steps, criminal charges, or statements, for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party.”'

    And yet you cheerlead this vile election fixing effort by Lying Jack Smith.

    So much of the Democrat Party, from the Imbecile President on down, is now Trump-crazed with pure madness.

    When Lying Jack Smith, with every submission, lies and claims he is complying with Justice Department guidelines, every Court, every judge, every lawyer, every American, knows that Lying Jack is lying his ass off, to rig the election for his boss, Bribed Joe.

    Justice Department regulations FORBID exactly what they are doing, and lying about.

    'Trump is the leading candidate to be the next president of the United States. And' Lying 'Jack Smith is frantically trying to put him in jail before the election.'

    Exactly what you are advocating for.
     
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  6. Daniel Light

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    So your take is that Fox News, with it's entire research staff and huge bankroll, decided to pay off the voting machine maker $800 million dollars
    rather than present this "evidence" of yours ...

    Gimme a ****ing break.
     
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    Bull crap, dude. You're arguing that Fox News, with it's huge research staff and millions to pay for investigators, would just pay
    the voting machine makers $800 million dollars rather than present this mountain of evidence you claim existed ... well, bless your heart.
     
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    The FBI and CIA rigged it for Bribed Joe by lying about Hunter's laptop.
     
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    Where is the use of a pen in front of a judge mentioned?
     
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    Two reasons, those people that know very little about software to address this and those that know about software and don't want to speak of its vulnerabilities..
     
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    Please could you explain how the use of a pen in front of a judge can be used to hack software? Inquiring minds would like to know
     
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    Bless Trump loving rightists hearts. They still want to desperately believe their mango messiah was robbed.

    Thoughts and prayers to your feelings.

    This has been thoroughly debunked and proven to be horseshit. Not to mention, Fox News had to pay millions for lying about this horseshit.

    Why do rightists still believe in this lie?
     
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    Is that what the Fox suit was about? Did Fox say something about the hackableness of Dominion machines, Dominion sued, and Fox paid $800 million????
     
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    Nowhere, in any state in America, has even the most rabid Trumpy prosecutor or legislator been able to concoct any credible evidence of nefarious activity in the 2020 presidential election.

    Following all the audits, recounts, investigations, and court appeals, Trump's Republican election security expert's assessment that the election was the most secure in the nation's history has not been challenged outside the crackpot echo chamber pot.
     
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    The media is afraid to report on it, and those that see it as "who cares? It's how we win." do not seem to worry about corruption in voting.
     
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    Apparently, not even the most rabid Trumpy prosecutor or legislator anywhere in the nation deems the baseless claims credible enough to pursue the matter in any legal venue.
     
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    Was it a touch screen?
     
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    And the fact these machines and systems were connected to the internet blows it all wide open.... For the folks that don't understand the administrator can go directly into those machines from anywhere in the world, anytime...

    LITERALLY.... an administration connected to YOUR computers through the internet... with the correct passwords administrators would have, the ability to play games of solitaire on YOUR computer while you watch in your home...
     
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    There is no way that a software designer would not create a backdoor.. I don't know why people would think there wouldn't be..

    Backdoor are created for troubleshooting and tweeking code while it's running.. Do the designers lock them or remove it..

    Only they know ;)
     
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    Please list all the current challenges to the reliability of the voting machine filed by any legislator or litigator anywhere in the land.

    Surely, there is no shortage of hyper-partisan losers who would eagerly seek to contrive a pretext to attack democracy
     
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    I'm not surprised in the least. Nationwide in the MSM there is a conspiracy of silence regarding discussion of unpopular facts. That is the essence of propaganda and censorship. The most effective form of propaganda is by omission.

    On the upside, I think more and more people seem to understand how they've been lied to.
     
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    if Trump wins, we know republicans found a way to cheat
     
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    No idea. Bit strange that the claim was that a pen was used in front of a judge according to the title yet no mention at all in the post of a pen. Sounds like click bait to me. And if it's touch screen why would you bother to use a pen.
     
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    Smell and sniff, I think.
     
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    Haven't heard but proof of remotely hacking an ATM has been known for over a decade. Same proof known for electronic voting machines, which are easier, whether on site or remote.

    It happened. A shame some would rather shoot any available messenger and studiously ignore the common sense in what you'd think both sides would want, than learn.

    Skeptics can easily learn if so inclined. Search > evm hacks < for tons of articles and videos from all over the world, all showing the same thing... EVM results can be and are manipulated. (If you dig deep enough you might even find some code but lol, I wouldn't advise it.)

    FWIW, the info below took ~10 minutes to find.

    Black Hat USA 2010: Jackpotting Automated Teller Machines Redux
    Aug 14, 2010
    10:00


    US Lab Says Electronic Voting Machines Easy to Hack
    Oct 17, 2011
    3:08


    Fear? I Don't Care About My Life: Man Behind the 2010 EVM Hack (India)
    Feb 4, 2019
    12:36


    Unverified info on India's EVMs:
    E-Voting Judgment (Germany)
    03/03/2009
    https://www.dw.com/en/german-court-rules-e-voting-unconstitutional/a-4069101
    It was ruled unconstitutional because it doesn't comply with vote transparency required by law. That is, the voting procedure must be able to be verified by citizens at all stages without the need for expertise.

    Silly question: Why hasn't the US Supreme Court and/or Congress done the same for the same reason?

    EVMs across the US run on proprietary software: only the company which makes the EVM knows what the hardware and software are capable of and how vulnerable it really is. Proprietary software is closed source, as opposed to open source software which can be inspected, studied and verified by anyone.

    Bruce Schneier, a well known security expert, back in 2004:

    The Problem with Electronic Voting Machines
    November 10, 2004
    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2004/11/the_problem_wit.html
    And more recently from MSM:

    'Online and vulnerable': Experts find nearly three dozen U.S. voting systems connected to internet
    Jan. 10, 2020
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...s-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436
    More likely quietly compromised, personal info scraped and used for another's purpose. Other than an occasional odd glitch the home user would never know.

    There's no reason to connect EVMs to a wired or cell network for internet access when the count can easily be collected and verified locally. And then send the results to the state's official agency, through the state's encrypted network, with a county computer. However, that assumes the EVM's software renders an accurate vote count.

    Do you recall years ago when all US ISPs were required to provide a backdoor to the gov't? Some committed to user privacy set up shop in other countries while a few others closed their doors. Most caved and provided the backdoors. No reason the gov't wouldn't do the same with EVM companies.
     
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