Biden’s new border plan shows ‘I can’t do anything’ was always a lie

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Oh really, Bidummy lies?

    How many resident PF members have posted this exact point :) He used the power of the pen to open the borders and AS CLAIMED, can do the same to lock the border down.. Then again when dealing with MSM and propaganda the Biden supporters are easy marks :)
     
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    Then why didn't Former President Trump do the same thing?

    If Biden agreed to do it if he had Congressional support, why did House refuse to do so?

    Why is the house now refusing more money for border construction, more border patrol agents, faster processing procedure at the border, and a clear policy that can shut down the border?
     
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    Why does there ALWAYS a need for MORE MONEY? Hell, ol squeaky is still budgeting at covid emergency levels and there is no covid emergency?

    There should be plenty of money, right?
     
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    Trump had the border more secure than ever. The house passed HR2 which secures the border, it's a stand alone bill, and Schumer won't take it up in the Senate. When Biden rants and raves about sending a border security bill to his desk, why won't Schumer send him that one?
     
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    LMFAO!!!

    This is going to be just like Potemkin President Puddinwits' ill-fated news conference after the release of the Hur report when he failed to bullshit his way out of being declared a criminal who was mentally unfit for office.

    Now, after lying about how he couldn't fix the mess he orchestrated with his 64 EOs, he's going to get out in front of the entire country and make a liar out of himself during his own SOTU speech.

    :laughing:LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    IMO, Biden should close the border immediately in exchange for RP support for substantial military aid for Ukraine Israel and Taiwan.
     
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    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

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    Well, trump did secure the border. Despite the democrat promise of "not one dime, not now, not ever".
     
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    :deadhorse:

    We have explained this to you multiple times. The Senate border bill was crap. It was a sham. It allowed 5,000 aliens in a day before the president could do anything. That's 1,825,000 aliens a year. It was not a great deal different from what is happening how. Furthermore, how was the president going to measure that number? Would Biden enforce the law? He has a profoundly miserable record on that.

    Only Republican as senile and devious as Mitch McConnell could have not seen through this bill as a Democrat trap. If you passed it, the Democrats got almost everything they wanted short of an open border. If you didn't pass it, you blame the Republicans. Perfect!

    And yea, when I see one of my own who needs to go, I call for it. Mitch McConnell needs to retire before he freezes in public again.
     
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    1. Your math is way off. 5001 encounters closes the border. One can't have 1,825,000 encounters if the border is shut down at 5001.
    2. With more border patrol and more barriers more of the encounters will be caught and turned back.
    3. With a faster more effective processing fewer people will remain in country for a shorter time.
    4. the average number of daily encounters is over 5000 a day and the border is not being shut down.
    5. Biden gave the House what it asked for. They refused it, won't discuss it, and still are trying to blame him.

    The House of Representatives wants to wait 11 months before trying to come up with a different program. If they do this one can be assured that unless conservatives have control of all 3 branches of government it will fail. They are asking the American People to gamble on something that has long odds.
     
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    We shall agree to disagree. You believe in smokescreens, lies and Joe Biden. I believe in the truth. Three years of mismanagement is not a trustworthy track record.

    You don't trust Trump; I don't trust Joe Biden.
     
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    The DNC has this old fool painted in to a corners.. I actually feel sorry for the guy, these DNC scum are destroying him!!! The only silver lining is, the old bastard, once left alone will quickly forget his name and all the bad people he had to deal with :(
     
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    If you take history in to fact, the DNC would have not lived up to the letter of the deal anyway.. They'd have gutted all the money they could and ignored every bit of the immigration deal..

    Let history tell you what the DNC stands for and how dishonest they were and how much worse they are today..

    Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986
     
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    It's amazing that the current best that the American political system can do is a senile old man (Biden) and a psychotic crazy old man (Trump) for the highest office
    in the land ... sad.
     
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    I agree, although I place more blame on the DNC that's using this senile old fool without a "Give a damn" about him, his health and or his reputation.. The DNC and the GOP are some POS lowlife bastards...
     
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    Yes, the primary system has failed completely. The choice for president is terrible.
     
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    LOL - Maybe the SOTU will be Puddinwits' curtain call?

    Of course, they can continue to help engineer his destruction until he finally agrees to throw in the Depends. The question is, in his condition when will he know when to do it? Will Nurse Jill have to pull the plug and bring his public humiliation to a merciful end?
     
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    I have issues with Trump for the simple fact that, how could a guy take this much abuse and not be vindictive? The whole country is a pressure cooker ATM, all this bickering needs to cool down. To much bullshit associated with both men, we need some fresh meat to chew on..

    RFK could have been a great start, but we are all so blinded by partisan nonsense we failed to even consider the guy :( The biggest problem "If PF is any sort of bellwether" is everyone is more interested in rubbing one another's nose in how screwed up Biden and Trump are.. We should all be working together "ITS OUR ASS's that's gonna suffer in the end" to find BETTER alternative leaders..

    BUT, it wont happen, these dirty bastards in Washington have drove a wedge between us and the only way it will be rectified is collapse..
     
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    I tell you who is the real POS, it's Bidens so called wife! Think about that, this women leads him around like friggen DOG when she should be helping him out of this death march.. I bet any money at the end of the day, she drops two tabs of zolpidem in his mouth and she is off to party and strut around hobnobbing with all the other evil swinging dicks..
     
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    If the Libertarian Party can extricate its collective head from its ass they'll nominate this guy for president:

    Rectenwald for President
    https://rectenwald2024.com

    https://www.michaelrectenwald.com

    I'd vote for him over the other candidates in a heartbeat....
     
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    Trump really eff'd everything up for himself when he held that stupid January 6 rally and insisted that Pence could overthrow the election result. Pence couldn't. When the court cases were exhausted, it was over. I could told them from the start that the courts were not going to overturn the election. They only get involved when the country's back is against the wall, like after the 2000 election. Even even then, you had one old fart, John Paul Stevens, whom Republican Gerald Ford appointed, who would not accept the result.

    Trump is unhinged, and it's understandable. The trouble is he needs to face facts. The country is more important than him. The Democrats have succeeded to demonizing him, and they have him tied up in court so he can't run. He's also 78 years old and needs to face facts. He had a good term as president. When and if historians become objective 50 years from now, he'll get credit for that.
     
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    I agree, but I'm not so naive to not think there was much more to it and much more orchestrated then is talked about.. It's going to be like Covid and vaccine misinformation, we know a ton more today than what was being sworn to then ;) Even when the truth is finally front and center it will be mostly ignored too..
     
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    Perhaps you can explain then how every other president has done a much, much better job of securing the border than biden has.
    With the same laws.
    And the same budget.
     
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    You blame biden for not closing the border, why didn't you blame trump for not closing the border?
     
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    Two separate issues that should not be combined

    Border needs to be 100% shut down (obviously won't be 0 getting in, but will be dramatically less than the current nightmare)
    0$ for foreign countries until we have a budget surplus and a sharp reduction in debt.
     

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