Oklahoma transgender student dies after allegedly assaulted by students at school

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  1. Joe knows

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    Looks as if this thing/it/her/him/they/them (did I cover all pronouns so I don’t offend) asked for it. Here is a text he sent after the fight.

    “I got jumped at school. 3 on 1, had to go to the ER,” the message said. The text exchange said the girls involved in the fight “had been bullying me and my friends and I got tired of it so I poured some water on them and all 3 came after me.”

    actions come with consequences. A boy picking on girls should not be tolerated
     
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  3. Joe knows

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    The most recent articles including CNN will tell you that he did not die of trauma. CNN’s article will also tell you he started the fight by dumping water on them. In other words a male was in a woman’s bathroom picking on women. Is that something you’re going to defend?
     
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    Trans is mental health illness as far as I’m concerned. In fact you are defending someone who initiated the whole thing by dumping water on the girls who attacked him. In other words a boy was in a girls bathroom picking on girls and here you are defending that boy. That boy also was not killed by trauma. May have ate too many pills for all we know.
     
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  5. truth and justice

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    Have you seen any reports saying she was born male? No confirmation she was even trans

    The fight started when the bullying started a year ago
     
  6. Joe knows

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    Hey if you want to be confusing to everyone and claim they them pronouns then it leaves people free to assume. So it’s a he in my opinion. If they can pick pronouns why can’t we
     
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    Well just found out you are wrong. Born a girl

    From the gofund me page:
    "It is with great sadness and a heavy heart that we have to share the unexpecting passing of Dagny Benedict on Febuary 8th, 2024. Dagny was a daughter, sister, cousin, and aunt. She was a 16 year old 10th grader from Owasso Oklahoma."
     
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    "Obviously" and "dead giveaway"? Confirmed she is a girl. And you would insist she uses the male shower rooms. No confirmation she was even a trans which has been dropped in all recent reports

    And what your comments show: The difference between male and female is blurred and not either 0 or 1
     
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    Touché doesn’t negate from the fact that she initiated this attack and that she didn’t die from trauma
     
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    If someone is constantly bullying you for over a year and no doubt some of it was physical, throwing water is not initiating an attack. She didn't just throw water at that moment in time without any provocation.
     
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    Just call them XX or XY. Man /Woman is not scientific terms
     
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    Proving my point exactly. Guess that means the kid deserved to get killed, right?
     
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    Are you trans?
     
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    in todays idiocy, they could be claiming him as a girl when in fact, he has a penis
     
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    I'm going to start this response with a definition of empathy: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empathy
    Not necessarily for your sake, but there may be some people who are reading this that may like to have a better understanding.
    I hear what you're saying. There are some obnoxious people out there, traditionally "straight" and others, who are, as you pointed out, lacking 'empathy'.
    But I choose to not use the least common denominator as my personal benchmark. If I were to do so, use others' behaviors to gauge my own, it would allow me to be a lot less empathetic than I would like to be, so I choose not to.
    I also think you're using that least common denominator to judge many others who are good people, who may think a little differently (or A LOT differently) than the "norm", but who are just trying to live their lives in their own comfort zone.
    I'm not gay, but if I were, I would like people to accept me as I am. If I were an a**hole, then I would expect people to treat me as such.
    Some people have an abrasive personality and can't figure out what the problem is. Introspection is important.
    Trans people are not bad people because they are trans. There are many you probably have come in contact with and didn't even realize it, as there have been many people who identify as something else they were born into for a long, long time. It's not your fault, nor theirs, and I find it much easier to just let them be who they are. Just because I don't necessarily understand it doesn't make it wrong or repulsive.
    You are correctly pointing out something, that there are some trans people who are obnoxious. And it's ok not to like that, but keep it in context, that you dislike them because they are obnoxious, not because they are trans or gay.
    Last thing. People who are oppressed for a long time and suddenly find freedom sometimes don't know how to act. They aren't used to being allowed to be freely or openly gay, or trans or whatever, and do things like have a 'gay parade' in NY. I watch and think "there isn't a 'heterosexual' parade, why do they feel the need to throw it in my face?" They don't need to, but the reason is that it makes them feel good to be able to be out in public openly being who they are. After a while, it will calm down and they will just be part of the fabric that makes this the greatest country in the world, because of our freedoms, all of ours.
    Who am I to judge?
     
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    The grand parents apologised for referring to her as a girl and for disclosing her real name Dagny which is a girl's name. No recent reports of her being trans.

    But that won't stop the online bullying as seen in this thread
     
  17. Joe knows

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    If they can pick wrong pronouns for themselves then I can pick whatever pronoun I want to call them.
     
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    She wasn’t murdered by trauma get over it. Probably suicide from the pain meds they gave her
     
  19. MelshieMaze

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    I didn’t ask you that.
     
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    LMFreakinAO!
    My point was that the article that I posted heavily supported the inference that they died of something other than directly from the injuries from the previous day.
    It’s unclear if the alleged bullying was linked to Nex’s Feb. 8 death. The student’s cause of death has not been made public, and the Owasso Police Department said Tuesday that it was unclear if the fight was related to the death.
    Thus, the statement:
    Oklahoma police say nonbinary teen's death was not result of injuries from high school fight
    ...was unsurprisng...
    And, as far as "defend"? :roflol:
    No...Not Really...
    Not even sure how anybody could conjure up such an unrealistic fantasy that I was "defending" anything.:bored:
     
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    We’ll never even suggested any sort of logic that would have made you ask me what you asked so I reiterated my point and I will do it again
     
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    Months worth of bullying at school, restrictive anti-trans laws and a fight will mess you up physically and mentally and some of y’all are just as bad so….if it was indeed suicide I can see why….
     
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    It’s a yes or no question, bro. Not that hard.
     
  24. Joe knows

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    When you allow trans to go unchecked you will have mental breakdowns because it is a mental issue to begin with.
     
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    Let me reiterate because you clearly did not understand what I said if you are asking such an absurd question. If they can choose pronouns so can we. It’s a reciprocal thing. If they want to live in a world of picking what they call themselves based on emotion then why can’t we call them what we want based on emotion? Your question is irrelevant.
     
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