There's a new sheriff in town and it's called "NO LABELS"

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  1. Shutcie

    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

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    We recently came across an article where Nancy Pelosi (AKA Nancy Antoinette) skewered this political party that calls itself "no labels". Basically, she was saying that they were trying to keep biden from reelection and that was simply not acceptable so she had to speak up.
    That got me curious, and I went looking.
    No Labels
    Now here's the thing. This party has some very worthwhile goals and beliefs that I just happen to support.

    9f0726_ddf18ab178e0489d8d816fd09e8607fe.pdf (commonsensemajority.org)

    Now they have zero hope of fielding a viable candidate for President in 2024 (They don't even have someone they'll talk about) but then one has to start somewhere, eh?

    Anyway, I think everyone needs to take a look at this bunch and decide for themselves.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3rd parties steal votes from one party or the other.... they have no chance of winning, but they can change the outcome of an election
     
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    Only in the US. It isn't a problem with third parties, it's a fundamental issue with your political environment.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    anywhere, if two parties are to the right and one to the left, the two parties split their vote, it's that simple
     
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    Certainly, but if you have multiple parties, less of a simplistic binary left/right division and more scope for cooperation, collaboration and potentially coalition (formal or informal), you can have a more diverse political landscape that can focus more on practical policy than just getting at "the other side".

    No political system is perfect, but this is clearly at the core of so many of the problems in the US one.
     
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    doesn't work if you get one party vs the other two
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do know there are numbers bigger than three don't you? ;)

    Also, you're still assuming all parties are going to exist entirely on either side of a single binary line. It is perfectly possible for a third party to appeal to some voters of both established parties, varying depending on generally how good those parties are doing in general. If there was a viable centrist party in the US, I've no doubt it could attract traditional Republicans who don't like the extreme right or Trump and traditional Democrats who don't like the extreme left or Biden, not to mention many independents who are currently voting for "least worst" options. It's not going to work for the Presidency from the outset, but is something that could build up from local and state elections.
     
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    you do know that if one bad party exists and two good parties, the two good parties spit the vote, making it easier for the bad cult like party to win

    Trump won the 2015 Primaries because there were so many Republicans candidates
     
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    If I could register for the No Labels party, I would. Don't think they're even on the ballot here in PA yet. But they are my party for sure. I'm not a Greenie or a Libertarian, I'm a moderate.
     
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    The problem with no labels is pretty much the same as problem as with neo cons, they appear to think the solution to our problems lie in DC when in fact they are mostly generated there. The problem is That most of our problems are the result of policy ideas that began in Ca, metastasized in DC and spread like a cancer throughout the rest of the country. Crime problem? Yes there is, If you are a Black man living in a big blue city you are several times more likely be murdered than a white man anywhere, worse it is increasingly likely that your murderer will never face a day of jail time and that any one who witnessed your murder will also be murdered by the same guy since no bail policies immediately return the murderer back on the street. Some how the left seems to think that the facilitation of the murder of black people is less racist than the jailing black murderers. I'm sorry but there is no place civil society can compromise with the death cult that is the current Democratic Party. Sorry but there is no worthwhile compromise one can make with barbarians whose solution for every problem is ultimately the death of millions if not billions.
     
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    What we need is Ranked Voting.
     
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    now Ranked voting I would support, then you could really have more then two parties
     
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    If you’re looking for additional Party’s look no further than the two Party’s each have different coalitions within and I’m suggesting if these coalitions didn’t have allegiance to their umbrella Party more governing would get done for the average American.

    Progressives, New Democrats, and the nearing extinct Blue Dogs, Freedom Caucus, Study Committee, Goverance Group.
     
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