Senator calls LGBTQ+ people 'filth,' says most don't want them here

Ah the "just one person" argument. I remember that argument from 10 years ago about that "one person" that wanted to be accepted as a woman, with about the same estimation in population statistics.

I mean that's really what the transgenderism thing is about....pushing it to children to normalize pedophilia.

 

Not really. They'd just use IVF. But who cares? We don't need everybody to reproduce.

 

So you didn’t read your own source and now are trying to say a single person saying they want these people to get help instead of offend is a a bad thing?

Simple question for you, would you rather a pedophile get treatment for their mental illness or harm a child?

So you have completely lost the point you were trying to make and have now moved on to trans issues. The overwhelming vast majority of sex crimes against children occur by cis heterosexual men, typically involved with the child’s family.

Would you like to guess the number of transwomen (biological men that have actually transitioned and are not just really a cis heterosexual man wearing a dress to get closer to victims) convicted of child rape in the year 2022-2023?

Take a guess.

 

They both look male to me, frankly. Though I am guessing the 2nd one is supposed to be born female? The eyes of the 2nd one seem feminine, and the mandible is probably wide angle (= female), easier to tell from a side angle, but without context I would just assume male. The first one, I would guess they were a trans female without context.

 

FYI, all prisons are segregated, not sure why the poster singled out CA other than to make a political dig.

http://www.poliscidata.com/blog/racial-segregation-in-american-prisons-how-widespread/

 

Correct, the second one is transmale — the larger question is why should these people that have fully transitioned be forced to use the bathrooms of their birth gender?

 

True, that was your more important point. I just like to be able to tell. I recall as a teen there was this trans or not game online that I found fun.

I'm actually very liberal on this. I don't care about genders for bathrooms. Everybody should just mind their own business in the bathroom and then it doesn't matter. Gay guys go to the same bathrooms as me, but it doesn't matter as long as they respect everybody in the bathroom. Same should be true for not fully transitioned trans persons.

 

It would be hard for me to read a video source.

The rest of those you supplied.

I'm not moving issues at all. Transgenderism targeting children is the norm.

Yeah sure give me statistics on 2% of the population.

 

The strong economy and your gains did not come from politicians. I should probably keep on topic and just say that this politician is in no position to call anyone "filth"

 

Your video has a description

You are the one concerned about them raping children. Surely you have the data (hint, they are SEVERELY underrepresented)

As to “targeting children” what do you mean exactly? You mean wanting to show that trans people exist, should be treated with basic decency and that people should not be ashamed to be who they are instead of killing themselves? I would take that over religious indoctrination any day of the week.

 

LoL ok I'll read the description for you.

Of course pedophiles want to go after children. It's kind of in the definition.

I'm just laughing that you would like to compare 2% of the population to the other 98% as if that proves anything about the 2%.

Let's just go on record and say I'm against pedophiles in general, but only on the left do they want it normalized. NAMBLA wasn't chaired by conservatives.

Pushing their sexual agendas into schools, of course. Suggesting children should be able to make decisions that sterilize them or chop off their breasts, of course.

Ah the "but they're gonna kill themselves" if we don't let them chop off their breasts and take drugs that sterilize them.

Since you like to pull up statistics, please show me the statistics from 20 years ago that show trans people killing themselves.

Surely child suicides 20-50 years ago were higher yeah? Oh no.....not even close.

Where are all these historical suicidal statistics for little girls that couldn't lop their breasts off?

 

I already posted it for you.

I don’t really feel like explaining per capita statistical data to another one of you today so… sure

No one wants it normalized — people with even a basic understanding of mental health and sexual paraphilias can comprehend treatment is better than them offending.

Trans isn’t a sexuality

It’s impressive how many things are incorrect thus far even ignoring that you are using trans and pedophile interchangeably

All over the place…

I asked you to back up your numbers first. You have accused trans people of being pedophiles — prove it. And after that you can figure out what you want to discuss as you are jumping from one to the next in desperate attempt to make any talking point stick.

 

There are no male/female valid statistics anymore. Anyone can be a man, and anyone can be a woman.

To understand how bad your arguments are, all you have to do is point to the simple fact that youth suicides have greatly increased at the same time the transgender nonsense has gained ground.

You have nothing to back up the nonsense that sterilizing children and cutting their breasts off does anything other than make it more likely they kill themselves.

The child suicide rate was much lower before leftists started mutilating children.

 

Translation.. "Nope, I (cd8ed) don't have the actual evidence, so I launched this ad hom instead"

 

Why change the topic of discussion? The conversation is about his public statements about the LGBT folk. You still haven't provided derogatory commentary by Trump that is similar to what the bigot in OK said. So, instead, you attempt the smear by pulling the quote above. Do you deny that there are lots of criminals coming over the border illegally? Can you not be bothered to read a news cite? Or do the ones you read neglect to tell you about all of the crime these illegals are committing once here? And even though your citation is grossly off topic, can you make a fact based claim that Trump's comment here is wrong?

 

Hard to have discussions using data, statistics, and facts, when some readers don't know the basic concepts of those functions.

 

You asked for proof he's just doing what MAGA people do.
I responded with the leader of MAGA doing the same.

Now we can end our discussion. Because you are correct. It went OT to prove my point about the Senator being like the MAGA leader.

 

False. Sexual attraction isn’t required to make babies. Just ask Melania.

 

Why is it that the bluest states typically have the highest age of consent? Why is the age of concent only 16 in most of the south?

 

Age of consent for what?

 

So, purposefully dishonest response. Got it. So, you cannot provide any evidence of Trump having said what the bigoted state senator said in the OK. But you already had concluded that you couldn't hence the BS response about off topic comments that you took out of context and still have misattributed. Typical.

 

Suicide in general has gone up, trans youth track similarly to that but treatment has shown to decrease it.

I don’t think individuals under the age of 18 should be allowed to transition medically except under the most extreme circumstances. That doesn’t preclude social transitioning however. So why would I attempt to back up something you just invented as my position? Is this really typically an effective debate strategy for you?

I would ask for a source linking child sex changes to overall child suicide rates but looking at your performance in regards to facts or sourcing in this thread alone I won’t waste my time.

 

You obviously don't remember what our off topic conversation was about. I never made the silly claim you just posted.
You're going further and further away from the topic.
It all started with your off topic post about the Republican Senator from OK being a democrat. Because you can't actually talk about the OP honestly. To use your word.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...want-them-here.616942/page-12#post-1074679275

 

Nonsensical. You never have a population that is 100% gay or 100% straight. It doesn't work like that. There's always a proportion of each. Always has been, is now, always will be. That's just the way it is.

 

Nobody doubts that (except for invitro) but the offspring of those couplings usually turn out to be gay or bi in pretty routine numbers. Could be you perceive more gay, bi, trans people because there's generally more acceptance now so they are less afraid to be themselves?