Do you defend starvation as a weapon in Gaza?

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  1. Glücksritter

    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    Ah and the next strawman. So we have the next player in the field, where you switch randomly to avoid any coherent discussion which would undoubtedly show that you are on the side of the evil. Now we add up "EU" and "NATO" to the family to avoid a coherent comparison between the US and Islam as you made it earlier to try desperately to defend the perverted cult.

    Just a hint here, if you wanna try to paint hate pictures, spread lies and fake news, try to keep it half way realistic. The EU murdered hundred millions of people from 1993-2000? I mean that is so dumb, it could isolate you from the rest of the Islam apologists as it becomes at some point embarrassing even for them and their ashamingly low standards.
     
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    Denial is not a river in Africa.

    What America backed Israelis are doing right now is the worst genocide since darfur. It's just a shame that you cannot condemn white Jewish Europeans but will gladly condemn Muslims in Sudan.

    This is ultimate proof of antisemitism.
     
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    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    Thats rich coming from someone denying the crimes of Hamas from Octobre 7th, which are well (even self-!!) documented and proven.Nice new twist by the way to switch back and forth in the centuries now, to have another variable to confuse a coherent discussion.
     
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    What crimes of hamas have iDenied and please provide quotes from myself??
     
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    provide unquestionable proof or it never happened.
     
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    October 7 does not justify what has come after.

    What we're seeing is wholesale slaughter of civilian men women and children.

    And, that has advanced to starving children and other civilians to death.

    How about we move back to moral principles that we could possibly defend?

    How about we get them some food and water?
     
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    Proof of what?
     
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    A few thousand deaths is not "wholesale slaughter"
     
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    Your off by an order of magnitude.

    You still ignore that children are dying of dehydration and malnutrition.

    There are 180 women in Gaza giving birth every day - at a time when mothers are too malnourished to nurse and where hospitals are bombed and medical aid is denied.
     
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    Why are the lives of children worth more than adults?
     
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    2 hints: They are helpless to fend for themselves and provably cause no risk of danger.
     
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    Lots of adults killed in a war are helpless
     
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    Absolutely.

    When Israel shoots people trying to reach the aid trucks, bombs refugee camps, sends missiles into apartment buildings, what the heck would anyone THINK would happen?
     
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    What will killing another 20 or 30 thousand civilians achieve for Israel?

    What are the objectives that can be achieved?

    Let's remember that Hamas leaders aren't even in Gaza. And, even in that tiny postage stamp, Israel is not succeeding.
     
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    Here's what Levy says in an interview:


    The interview actually starts at the 1:39 point. Previjous time is spent identifying the people and topic.
     
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    An interview with Gideon Baron-of-Lies Levy is not proof of anything. He's a far-left journalist, not a general. And a known, proven liar.

    The Israeli journalist's [Gideon Levy] web of lies makes Pravda– in its worst days– seem like a serious and credible newspaper.​

    https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1gPg475n2hm0aLc0sjVk26OkXWuilfSb7bX2zeNU9C2w/pub
     
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    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    Who is we? Talk to the Israelis.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
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    My point is that simply being "helpless" does not make fatalities in a war any more acceptable.
     
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    Exactly.

    But Israel needs to be pressured to follow ICJ direction.

    So far, we stand in defense of Israel's conduct.

    Air dropping MREs is not sufficient or effective. We dropped 35,000 MREs and raised that number to 45,000 I think, but there are 2 MILLION people who need food and water.

    And, the new pier we're building is also a showcase, not a solution. When deliveries hit the beach, Israel controls searching the contents and permitting movement. This is an incredibly slow and unsure process - exactly the same problem that aid runs into at the Rafah and northern crossing points where long lines of aid trucks sit in the sun.
     
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    Why?
     
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    I'm sure you hate him.

    Levy (גדעון לוי) writes opinion pieces and has a weekly column in Haaretz that often focuses on human rights and the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.

    No nation likes having their crimes make the news!
     
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    No nation likes being accused of crimes rhey didn't commit either
     
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    Sure.

    But, you can't rebut what Levi has written in his weekly column.
     
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    who?
     

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