Are you secretly happy Trump is going down the drain?

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Hailey was a guaranteed Biden victory.
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Only to stupid people.
     
  3. MiaBleu

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    Hmm. Well THAT explains a lot...
     
  4. MiaBleu

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    And Trump isn't???
     
  5. Independent4ever

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    Nikki Haley agrees....

    Nikki Haley outraises Trump in January fundraising (yahoo.com)
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There's a lot more to this story than his popularity. Numbers which are not that accurate when it comes voting time.

    Trump is about to be crushed financially and this is going to have a psychological effect on this man we have yet to be able to predict, and it's starting to show.He's coming unhinged, he's slurring speech.He's mixing up names and it's getting worse edwards and words. According to past aids he's high on adderal most of the time and he wears diapers and he stinks. The man is a ****tangled sad sack of a human being with zero redeeming qualities.

     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Not hardly. If he was, the Democrats wouldn't be trying to ruin in in court.
     
  8. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    The Dems did not make him do the things that got him into trouble. HE and HE alone is responsible for his actions. The legal system is playing out. ( sometimes with an unfair bias to Trump)
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Way smaller than it could have been? It was Bipartisan. Currently there are some 46,000 projects accross America and 10 more years to go, we're just girting started. how can you possibly make such a statement?

    So, I'll file that in the Unsubstantiated right wing talking points file. Now for some facts:

    The claim that “2/3rds of the bill is geared towards failed green energy initiatives” contains a misrepresentation of the actual content and objectives of President Joe Biden’s Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act). Let’s break down the key points:

    1. Ambitious Objectives:
      • The Infrastructure Act aims to achieve several ambitious goals, including:
        • Delivering clean water to all American families and eliminating lead service lines.
        • Ensuring reliable high-speed Internet access for every American.
        • Repairing and rebuilding roads and bridges with a focus on climate change mitigation, resilience, equity, and safety.
        • Improving transportation options and reducing greenhouse emissions.
        • Upgrading airports and ports to strengthen supply chains.
        • Making the largest investment in passenger rail since Amtrak’s creation.
        • Building a national network of electric vehicle chargers.
        • Upgrading power infrastructure for clean, reliable energy delivery.
        • Enhancing infrastructure resilience against climate change, cyberattacks, and extreme weather events.
        • Tackling legacy pollution by cleaning up Superfund and brownfield sites and capping orphaned oil and gas wells1.
    2. Green Energy Initiatives:
    3. Balance and Priorities:
    4. Critics’ Perspectives:
    In summary, while the bill does allocate funds for green energy initiatives, it also covers a broad spectrum of infrastructure improvements. Labeling these efforts as “failed” without considering their long-term benefits and the urgency of addressing climate change oversimplifies a complex issue13.
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    he is not just stupid, he is criminally stupid.

    He's got to be put in jail, where he belongs.

    What's tragic is that he has some 65 million believers and he doesn't give a damn about them.
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Are you even paying attention?

    Trump has some 780 million worth of loans due in the next few years, and now he needs over $500 million he must come up with to make an appeal, or NY AG is going to start seizing Trump property. He already posted a $91.6 million dollar bond in the Jean Carrol verdict, which is going to cost him probably more than that when he loses the appeal, because the bond is no doubt secured by collateral that is worth a lot more, and he won't have the cash to pay it.

    He's in deep do do and all his MAGA buddies are way to poor to bail him out. Popularity is irrelevant. Not to mention 4 indictments and 91 felony counts.

    That's what I'm talkin' about.
     
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  12. MiaBleu

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    Indeed. And they can't seem to see that. That is what is so concentering. This kind of blind loyalty is a prescription for major changes in regime styles. This has already happened to one party. The country might be next . Maybe this major change is what this group wants. (and that too is concerning)
     
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    The polls showed just the opposite, and in this case, I think the polls were right. She would have pulled a lot of the Independent and female vote from Biden. Trump will continue to alienate these same voters.
     
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    That "demographic" needs to be protected from the vultures, hyenas and other social predators. They are not capable of participating effectively and we need to admit that so that we can not only protect them but ourselves. Otherwise, they will continue to be manipulated to their own disadvantage, and ours.
     
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    I think that they are a very effective demographic with integrity when operating in their own element. However that element/environment has been shifted overseas when their jobs were sold out for a faster bigger buck. The same thing has happened in Australia.
     
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    There are far better options than the potato too, but it appears he will be your candidate. Maybe the lack of critical thinking extends to both parties.
     
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    You really are not fooling anyone with this nonsense.
     
  18. FatBack

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    You give him way too much of your mental energy.

    It seems that all you do is think about Trump every waking moment.
     
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    I think the numbers are fairly accurate, more so when one factors in the MOE which every poll has. Usually plus or minus 3 points when it comes to presidential elections and the like. Usually, you have around 90% who have their minds made up, but there’s not way to factor in the undecided. Hence, you’ll see a difference between the polls and the final result. But if one looks at the spread, not the horse race numbers, almost always the polls fall within the MOE of the spread. Keeping in mind voter turnout and those undecides will throw off the poll numbers to the actual results.


    This far out, the spread, if one takes into consideration the MOE of plus or minus 3 points on most polls, the final results have fallen within the MOE. There was a 6-point spread on 11 Mar 2020, Biden won by 4.5 points. Within the MOE. Hillary was up by 5 points on 11 Mar 2016, she won the popular vote by 2.1 points, again within the MOE. Obama was up by 4 points on 11 Mar 2012, he won the popular vote by 3.8 points, again within the MOE. Obama was up by 4 points on 11 Mar 2008, he won by 6.4 points. Still within the MOE.


    Now the horserace numbers or the percentage of the vote each candidate would receive was off and usually, not always outside the MOE. This is due to that last 10% of undecided’s and voter turnout. With Trump holding a 1.8-point lead today, factoring in the MOE of plus or minus 3 points, Trump could be up by as many as 4.8 points or trailing by 1.2 points. Most folks never look at the MOE or take it into consideration.
     
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    No, I'm saying that because it's true and you made zero effort to refute it.
     
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    tag for election day
     
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    Congrats @Patricio Da Silva Amazing thread! You are on a roll today! I'm still going to rank your super important and oh-so-political adult diaper thread as #1, but this is a close 2nd! Good job!
     
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    And you don't think that's what Republicans want? You think they want to share the power? You think they want to compromise in anything? The just deep sixed their own bipartisan deal! The difference between the two is that the country is better off under Democrats.
     
  24. Patricio Da Silva

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    You spend way too much time offering non arguments.
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

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    I get your sarcasm, but it would have more impact but for one small detail, both are true.
     

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