Now that the Biden impeachment inquiry has imploded, what's next?

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  1. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    I am a firm believer that there isn’t a corrupt politician out there. They all use the office for personal gain in my opinion. How broke was Obama before he became president and how much was he worth after? His net worth increased from 1 point something million to tens of millions on a 400k per year salary as president. Tell me how that works.

    you can’t tell me there wasn’t some sort of personal gain for George bush Jr in the Iraq war when he owns a logging company. Something he laughed off in the presidential debates by asking the crowd if anyone wanted any wood. But a logging company in the oil field is a wireline that goes down hole and logs the areas that have gas for better extraction. He knew the average American wouldn’t know that. But he definitely had some sort of profit from those wars.

    Bill Clinton may have liked sex but the Clinton’s worse crimes were likely with “whitewater”. It’s far more than just odd that he and Hillary were the only business partners to not be convicted of the scam. In fact they had documents that conveniently went missing then reappeared when they weren’t needed no longer. And I mean that’s just the tip of their history.

    I’m a firm believer they are all corrupt. And there is enough federal laws to implicate anyone if you really wanted to dig on them deep enough.
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As always, the internet is at your disposal to answer such questions. Next time use it.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/bar...ma makes his money,and his best-selling books.
     
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    I wouldn't call being worth $1.3M as being "broke". That being said...based on a quick internet search...
    From 2005 to 2016, Obama earned about $15M in advances and royalties from his books "The Audacity of Hope" and "Of Thee I Sing: A Letter to My Daughters" and royalties for "Dreams From My Father."
    In 2017, he and Michelle signed book deals worth at least $60 million to each write their own memoirs.
    In 2018, the couple signed a production deal with Netflix, which is estimated to be $50 million.
    Since leaving office, Obama has also been paid as much as $400K for public speaking events.

    Lucrative book deals and speaking events are very common for presidents.
     
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  5. ECA

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    His link does show how Obama made money during his time in office. You clearly didn't bother to read past the headline. I believe it was understood by Lee that you would have read more than just the headline. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Well... no. If you want to claim something was proven false, it's YOUR burden. Your claim, your research. Read my sig! You can start asking criminals mentioned in the Dossier that Trump pardoned, like Manafort... and those he didn't, like Cohen.

    At this point, there are testimonies by third party witnesses in the dossier that are questionable, but the CONCLUSIONS include either facts that were proven or remain unproven. NONE that have been demonstrated to be false.

    Off topic, in any case. Open a thread after you have done your research.
     
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    Nope. You are asserting that the information provided is true. Prove it. It's your burden. Also, address the other elements in the room which was that Podesta et al on the Clinton campaign used illegally foreign intelligence services to manufacture these spurious claims and then fed them to a hungry media who never did any diligence at all to determine the veracity of these claims. Since you didn't actually do any research or diligence once again, your tag line is as meaningless as it is ironic. You seem panicked.... And well you should be.
     
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    No. I'm stating that nothing in the dossier has been proven UNtrue. If it has, that's YOUR burden.

    What CAN be proven HAS been proven. The dossier, for example, predicted that Russia would weigh in in favor of Trump in the 2016 elections before they did. We know that they did. That Manafort was involved in illegal lobbying, which he was sentenced (and pardoned by Trump) for. That Cohen, Papadopoulos and others were colluding with Russian oligarchs, which Mueller later proved and they confessed. And I could go on and on... I don't have to prove any of that, because courts and/or reality (when it was immoral, but not a crime) already did.

    The dossier also reported other things that have not been proven because the proof is out of reach (in Russia or elsewhere), but it has NOT been proven to be false. So it's YOUR turn. If your claim is that something HAS been proven wrong, you will have to tell us what it is, and show the proof.

    So... this is the point in which you either disappear, or pretend that you never made the statement. Always a waste of time responding to you... but I guess I had a couple of minutes to waste today.... It's not going to happen often, so.... enjoy....
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    Yes as is normal and as all these witnesses did the closed door preliminary depositions. You DO know what is a deposition and and routinely a part of courtrooms and congressional hearings, you know that "never ask a witness on the stand a question you haven't already asked them" lawyer thingy. Have you ever had to give a deposition or subpoena someone else to give one before a court case?

    Biden was BEGGING for a public hearing to gain your sympathy and support and the "why are Reps afraid of questioning in public" and then he threw you under the bus and refused to show up and answer those questions in public sitting along side the other witnesses so we could judge for ourselves who is telling the truth. He's a liar and I hope they issue a subponea for next week and if he does not show then send the marshals to pick him up and in the mean time Congress needs to demand Garland charge him for not registering as a foreign agent an subject him to the same sanctions and they have others recently.
     
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    Well they are still waiting for the Biden's to turn over their banking and credit card records and emails but the Biden's are refusing to turn them over. They only have HALF what they need. I agree let's get some contempt of congress charges going.
     
  11. Cybred

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    So you don't believe in fair trials. Got it.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    "republican friendly courts". Hmm. Which means complete bias and unfair. Ergo invalid.
     
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    Nope. They like to have the decks stacked......favoring their political party/ Trump.
     
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    Nope! Nobody need wait for that.

    Comer, Jordon, Gaetz and the rest have been trying to create dirt out of NOTHING for MONTHS now.

    Can we impeach at least these three clowns now?

    When do we get congress back to doing something?
     
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    Yep, there are important thing to be done for the House, like keeping the government open and coming up with something that is not a short term fix to do just that.

    But, no, their MAIN incentive is not to do the best for America, their objective is to get Trump re-elected, that's what the theater is for. Well, let them go through the theater. It would be great for Americans to hear that since the pullout from Afghanistan, no American servicemen have died in combat abroad (at least to my knowledge). I am sure this will be great news, except that almost half of Americans won't hear it because it will be either suppressed or spun into something bad by Fox News, Newsmax et al.
     
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  17. Lee Atwater

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    As always, the internet is at your disposal to answer such questions. Next time use it. Let us know what you find out. Just understand that if you bring more conspiracy theories in here you're going to be exposed.
     
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    You seem to believe there is already enough evidence in general to impeach Biden in the "There is more than enough evidence uncovered to impeach Joe Biden" thread
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-to-impeach-joe-biden.615694/#post-1074589522
     
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  19. Joe knows

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    I read past the headline.
    Barack Obama had 5 books that came out during his presidency. Michelle had 1 book that came out during Obamas presidency. Tell me, is it ethical to maintain a business during the presidency like that? Did they use the office to sell those books. I guarantee they did.

    You are very smug for being completely ignorant of time frames.
     
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    I would like to correct myself. Barack had 3 and Michelle had 2 during their time in office
     
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    Problem is, so is his challenger.
     
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    That is why I am not voting for either of them, even though Golem says I am not doing by duty by not voting for one of them.
     
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    Ignore dumb things like that. Using your vote for a candidate you believe in is exactly what you're supposed to do, not fall in line behind whatever simps the DNC and GOP tell you you're supposed to vote for.
     
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    Lev Parnas, ex-Giuliani associate, testified allegations against Bidens are false and 'spread by the Kremlin'

    WASHINGTON — Ex-Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas slammed former President Donald Trump and his associates for pushing what he said were false allegations against the Biden family during the House Oversight Committee's hearing Wednesday in the GOP impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden. Parnas, a Ukrainian American businessman who worked closely with former Trump attorney Giuliani in 2018 and 2019 to try to find damaging information about the president, appeared as a witness at the invitation of committee Democrats alongside Hunter Biden’s former business partners Tony Bobulinski and Jason Galanis.

    “The American people have been lied to, by Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani and various cohorts of individuals in government and media positions,” Parnas said in his opening statement. “They created falsehoods to serve their own interests knowing it would undermine the strength of our nation." Parnas called out Trump allies in Congress, such as former Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., as well as some prominent right-wing media figures for spreading misinformation about the Bidens.

    “Congressman Pete Sessions, then-Congressman Devin Nunes, Senator Ron Johnson and many others understood they were pushing a false narrative,” he said. “The same goes for John Solomon, Sean Hannity and media personnel, particularly with Fox News, who use this narrative to manipulate the public ahead of the 2020 elections. Sadly, they are still doing this today as we approach the 2024 elections.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jo...tifies-allegations-bidens-are-fals-rcna144250

    As if the deceitful, lying House Repubs didn't have enough problems, right? Lev, he had a little somethin'-somethin' for Gym Jordan, Comer and the boys. An in your face, "you guys are nothing but a big ball of shyte" somethin'.
     
  25. ECA

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    100% correct
     
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