The US can and should stop threatening Russia

There are no strong military locations for Russia in
the Western Hemisphere at all.

And we go talking with delight about how we can
strike any Russian ship in the Black Sea, have now
surrounded the Baltic, and can send drones into
Russia to Moscow and beyond.

We are safe, but are abusing that safety to damage
Russia, and ridicule Russia's standing in the World.

Are we the type of country we want to be?

 

"Yes, we must continue to supply weapons to Ukraine so they can attack Russia"

so they can defend against Russia attack on them

 

I want the country to be the type that honors our agreements such as the one made with Ukraine in exchange for them relinquishing their nuclear weapons in exchange for peace.

 

I don't recall the US threatening nuclear war if Russia defeats Ukraine.

Perhaps you should expand your information sources.

 

Well that means threatening Russia WORKS! Why should we stop?

Putin is doing a fine job at that all on his own.

Us ridiculing Russia is not as bad as it would be to intervene militarily in their expansionist endeavors. I feel for the Russian people because I have always loved their folk music, dances, classical composers and overall culture. I studied a bit of Russian in my college years. But Putin is somebody who must either be removed, or ridiculed.

We can improve, but we most definitely don't want to be like Russia is today.

 

Viva la Ukraine!

 

Putin’s comments appeared to be a message to the West that he’s prepared to use all means to protect his gains in Ukraine. He said that in line with the country’s security doctrine, Moscow is ready to use nuclear weapons in case of a threat to “the existence of the Russian state, our sovereignty and independence.”

“All that is written in our strategy, we haven’t changed it,” he said.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-putin-nuclear-weapons-82ced2419d93ae733161b56fbd9b477d

 

Our criminal leaders are ignorantly taking us to WWIII, and amazingly many Americans support this. It’s dangerous and dumb.

This awful war should never have occurred and wouldn’t have if we had intelligent leadership.

 

You mean it's like... “A quarrel in a faraway country, between people of whom we know nothing” -Neville Chamberlain

This post illustrates the problem with the failures of education in our country. If we don't teach HISTORY properly, people start demanding that we repeat the errors of the past. Chamberlain ALSO thought people who demanded we intervene in favor of Czechoslovakia when Hitler invaded were criminal and ignorant.

Guess how that worked out.... Hint: it did NOT prevent WWII.

In fact, it precipitated it and made it worse because the invaders were never weakened by their efforts to conquer foreign nations. So they could keep expanding at full strength.

Russia MIGHT succeed in taking over Ukraine. But it will be weakened. Hopefully for enough time that somebody in Russia to rise to power who might not be this interested in invading other foreign nations. But if that doesn't happened, we need to be ready to prevent the NEXT "Case White" (aka, Hitler's invasion of Poland).

 

Good grief what a pile .. how does this post expressing concerns about WW3 illustrate the failure of education in our country ? Did we not do a good job with Duck and Cover .. do we not have people running around crying Russia Russia .. when something is not going right.

being worried about WW3 .. is a function of being educated about history .. and the place where neocon's take us .. and they don't get much more nutty than Genocide Joe . causing us big problems with dumb and dumber .. or perhaps better put Evil and Eviler .. foreign policy .. or better to use both .. call it dumb and evil foreign policy.

Russia is stronger not weaker - militarily .. on full war footing ..pumping out arms and equipment like crazy. Economically is yet to be seen .. short term pain for long term gain is how it looks from my perspective .. one having some semblance of objectivity given not drowning in partisan bias.

Speaking of which .. you holding up the Palestinian Flag .. calling for a cease fire .. send Biden and Bibi to the Hague for processing Yah Yah ! .. or is this all Trumps fault again .. Old Carrot Top and the MAGA men getting in the way of progress .. but no .. wait .. forgive my impetuousness .. but your now Bro's with Lindsay Graham oh .. but hold on .. Is Lindsay MAGA ? hard to keep track these days with all this playing both sides of the fence clown show.

Checkered Flag Yes ? No !

One thing for sure is that Team USA is a whole lot weaker out of these wars and that was a ridiculous false dichotomy you have going on there.

 

and the Palestinians as well right ! .. so they can defend against Israeli attack on them.

 

I don't understand how any logical person could feel that Russia is the victim here. All they have to do is go home and it ends.

 

So, in your opinion. We should just let Russia have its way whenever it wants where ever it wants.


Thats pretty crappy foreign policy.

 

It's self-explanatory. The "hands-off" approach when one nation invades another independent nation has NOT avoided wars.

What part did you not understand?

My post has nothing to do with being worried or not about WW3. I don't know what you're reading. My post is a response to a poster who thinks that the way to stop an expansionist dictator is to let him expand without opposition. That has NEVER worked. Whether he can be stopped or not at this point by NOT allowing it.... who knows. But the OP's position (same as the poster I responded to, and maybe yours...) those of us who understand basic history KNOW it won't.

The rest is unintelligible.

Not stronger than they would be if they are allowed to take over country after country unopposed. That IS how empires have been built in the past, you should know.

And, here again, is another sample of why learning history is important.

Lindsay is.... whatever he thinks will get him re-elected. Like Trump.

 

Amen, like seriously, how could anyone feel that way about those Russki warmongers

 

MAGAs have now become anti-USA pro-Russia.

Amazing what a Golden-Showers video can accomplish

 

So the US standing up for the little guy story again.

Ukraine is smaller than Russia.

Geographically but not militarily.
Russia has only 7% of the GDP of the US, 3.5% of the GDP of NATO.

The geographical size has nothing to do with it because Ukraine is just
the battlefield, Eastern and Southern Ukraine, which is predominantly
Russian-speaking.

So Russia with 3.5% of the GDP of NATO, is the little guy.
Oh, now it's time to use the opposite argument and say we are in the right
because we have more friends and that proves it.

The main reason Russia is doing so well is because they are fighting
for their survival, and Ukraine is only fighting to join NATO.

 

I bet you don’t understand things often.

Apparently you know little about Russia and Ukraine. I bet you think the war started with the Russian invasion and it was entirely unprovoked.

 

And there's a certain contradiction in wanting to join NATO
which can protect Ukraine, but getting Ukraine destroyed
to... um, protect it.

The overall logic is always the same

to generate revenue for the US weapons makers.

 

Hahahahahaha.

Why have libs and progressives become so supportive of the State and its wars? Seems like they’ve done a 180. I suspect Trump has f**ked their minds up.

 

Biden was lying as usual when he said the war was
started by Russia's brutal attack on Feb 24 2022.

Even NATO didn't believe the garbage fed to the US public.

 

Your post was responding to a post about WW3 .. ? .. you not realizing this perhaps why your post was such nonsense. Your claim that the hands off approach has not avoided any wars is false .. and nonsensical to be sure "what part did you not understand" ? and since when has the US been "Hands off" in Ukraine .. conducting a coup .. installing a pro western Gov't .. poking and poking the bear.

Russia has become stronger and the US weaker through this conflict .. "what part did you not understand" ?

Since when did you fall in love with Lindsay Graham and his neocon club ..

 

Yes! This awful provoked unnecessary war is all about enriching the war contractors and by extension the two criminal gangs in DC.

It’s a scam the Mafia can only dream of, but dumb Americans can’t see it.

 

Pres. Putin was demanding no NATO weapons and US missile sites
in Ukraine. Nor the huge army NATO raised in Ukraine (680,000 active
NATO trained and equipped troops).

While Joey Biden was claiming Russia had repeatedly refused to
negotiate,

NATO gave the lie to that by stating Russia's negotiating terms,
which was Ukraine was not to join NATO, knowing the consequences
that would mean.

 

Please explain why I don't understand things often. I do understand that when one poster attacks another that they usually don't have much of an answer to the problem.

The way I understand it is that the Russians invaded a country that had not attacked or provoked Russia and came from the North directly towards the Ukranian capital.
I do understand that Russia had used military intervention before to absorb a large part of the Ukraine in violation of a treaty they signed when the USSR broke up. They are the ones who controlled all of this, they are the ones who can end this simply by going home.
We should not feel bad about them simply because they haven't succeeded.