Biden To The Rescue

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He has a 80%+ approval rating among Dems proving they aren't buying RWM disinformation about crime, inflation, and the border.
     
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    Billion :)
     
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    You argued against tax cuts because it would increase the deficit. Then you said that deficit spending doesn't increase the deficit. :sunnysideup:

    Just trying to keep you honest because it's quite an absurd position.
     
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  4. Steve N

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    Lol....What??? So crime and inflation are down and the border that Biden opened up and allowed nearly 10 million illegals to invade us isn't a problem even though Biden himself said the border is not secure? Stop watching CNN.
     
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    The American who chose to put their lives on the line and run toward fire to rescue Americans, the Americans who put on uniform and patrol the street of America to keep America safe, the Americans who chose to go to Public School to teach next generation, the Americans who chose to work in City Office to keep the street lights on , they are all

    "They chose government jobs because they can hide in the red tape maze, do little work, can't be fired, have great benefits of paid sick days and paid holidays off, and will have a nice pension when they retire from not working”

    Is that what you think about them?
     
  6. Cybred

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    No more than any other govt spending.
     
  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    They took out the loans. They should pay them back.

    Why should we help out government employees?...lol
     
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    Point proven.
     
  9. Steve N

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    Don't those people have salaries? And where was your generosity when the left was calling to defund the police? The left constantly touts their status of being highly educated which enable liberal areas to have higher incomes and super duper economies. If that's true, then why do they need to have less educated and less financially stable people pay off their debts? And of the people you mentioned, how many actually went to college? I'm thinking that if they really did, they would have loftier and higher paying jobs.

    This is just another vote buying stunt and right now it looks like Biden needs all the stunts he can get.

    Biden can raise the tide for all ships by giving us tax cuts, instead he's doing just the opposite while making things more expensive.
     
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    You had a point?...lol
     
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    He is bankrupting America
     
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    No, explain why the plan is a problem or why you oppose it, don't use your reaction to it as a way to disrespect the President and his wife. That makes it look like your dislike for them is more important than the issue you raise. You can disagree without personal attacks.
     
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    It's simple. He wants it on the news that he forgave student loan debt. The details don't matter.
     
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    So, if I understand your position correctly, your belief in universal education dictates that you support allowing anyone to default on their student loan.

    Are you concerned about fairness in relation to those that worked their way through college and paid as they go while the people that took every penny they could get and lived it up in college end up in the same place? Are you concerned about less affluent non college graduates having to pay for the education of other people that signed for these loans that ultimately enable them to make far more money than those who shied away from taking loans to go to college??

    From where I sit, I find this to be fundamentally unfair, and you are correct, as a Conservative, I DO believe in personal responsibility. I cannot fathom what would make someone oppose this same personal responsibility.

    Different strokes for different folks. Being in my mid 50s and having accumulated most of my retirement savings by this point, the economy probably doesn't matter all that much to me going forward. I do however worry about the economy that my recent college graduate children will live under if more people with your mindset continue to propogate.

    From where I sit, the only hope from avoiding the decades long European economic malaise that has resulted from this same anti-personal responsibility mindset, is the notion that as the young people currently pushing this nonsense finally change their tune once they start carrying the bulk of the tax burden and gain a better understanding of the world around them.

    Hope springs eternal I suppose.
     
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    Cons care only about themselves.
     
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    Average wages in federal government are higher than those in the private sector, not 3 times less. Supporting the concept of government subsidizine personal debt is fiscally and socially irresponsible
     
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  17. Just A Man

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    If Biden did it -- the lefties are OK with it. They will never understand how it's bad policy for the USA. But, they act like they don't like the USA.
     
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    Every one of those irresponsible, lazy piece of trash moochers need to be exposed. if they don't have to pay loans, everyone that did it the RIGHT way should be 100% re-imbursed, and pay our mortgages too!
     
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    What do you think this student loan forgiveness did to the deficit?
    It increased government spending by $5.8 million according to the AP story. While the USA borrows money to pay it's bills.


    It seems to me that these people will have more money to spend and with your system of taxing some of that money will be returned to the states in its Sales Tax System. Every item purchased will have to be replaced at a factory or production line and bring income tax from the worker and more sales tax in selling. The purchase of a car will bring in even more tax in the way of spare parts and servicing. Income tax paid by the serviceman on profits. Gas revenue of course, to maintain your roads.
    On top of this you have a workforce capable of doing a job.

    They chose government jobs because they can hide in the red tape maze, do little work, can't be fired, have great benefits of paid sick days and paid holidays off, and will have a nice pension when they retire from not working. It's a feather-bedding dream job -- wake up.
    This can't be from personal knowledge or it would not have been posted. Jealousy?
    The old saying 'don't criticise until you've walked in another mans shoes ' comes to mind.
     
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    Spending increases the deficit, not tax cuts. I've gotten income decreases in my life time. I spend less.
     
  21. Endeavor

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    so you think all these people are "free loader"?

    The American who chose to put their lives on the line and run toward fire to rescue Americans, the Americans who put on uniform and patrol the street of America to keep America safe, the Americans who chose to go to Public School to teach next generation, the Americans who chose to work in City Office to keep the street lights on ."
     
  22. Steve N

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    Those people aren't the only ones get their debt scrubbed - you left out DMV workers and tax collectors.
     
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    I worked way through college and paid all my loan. No one paid for me.

    But that still doesn’t change my mind – I think Biden doing the right thing.

    You don’t like the idea , vote for the other guy.
     
  24. Endeavor

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    Oh the “fiscal responsibility” mantra. I would like to see one Conservative administration ever practice fiscally responsibilities.

    May be conservative should practice what they preach.
     
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    No, it is not "Welcome to democracy." The Supreme Court ruled that Biden could not forgive the student loans without an authorization from Congress. He does not have that authorization.

    That's how the system should work. Congress authorizes spending bills, and the president is authorized to administer them. The president is not authorized to spend money that has not been appropriated.

    Would you care to support the claim that "American Public servants" make more in the private sector? Some years ago USA Today ran a story about how government workers are now being paid more for jobs with similar responsibilities than workers in the private sector. I have not seen any groundswell in wages for private sector workers.

    Now, if you are talking about CEOs and other senior executives, that is true. The private sector does pay those guys more, sometimes without justification. BUT we are not talking about senior executives getting these benefits.
     
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