Niger severs ties with US Army over 'condescending attitude'

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  1. mdrobster

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    Has it ever occurred to you why all those nations in Africa are looking to purchase weapons. Are you seriously suggesting it is out of good will. :)
     
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    They're looking to purchase weapons to protect themselves from the America/al Qaeda axis, the very threat that destroyed Libya and created this whole situation today.
     
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    I think you should write a book about all your research.
     
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    From what I understand, they want to do business with countries like Iran and we wont let them, citing worries they'll sell them uranium.

    But ya, I wouldn't want foreign countries telling my country what to do either, I'd tell em to get out too.

    I think the underlying problem here is that The West is losing its soft power- we don't have anything developing nations want and so all we can do is make demands and threaten them. People tend to get sick of that pretty quick.
     
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    Do you want to discuss African politics or not?
     
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    This is the difference between China and USA. China has explicitly stated it's non interventionist policy on the continent whereas USA is trying to dictate government policy, as it believes the IMF (an American business) holds leverage over the continent through debts and the entailing restructure contracts
     
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    China is doing the same thing we been doing. They're just more honest about it.

    We offer loans that can never be paid back, and leverage their natural resources as compensation.

    China offers to build infrastructure, builds a port and a mine and a road, and mines the resources themselves. I guess Africa at least gets ports and roads out of the deal.

    Neither is particularly great for Africa, but the Chinese arent pretending like they're just there to help.

    And ya, China doesnt say 'also you can't do business with these other people now.'
     
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    I have no interest in reading your conspiracies. I.e., USA and Al Qaeda axis is as ridiculous as it comes.
     
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    Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne | The Guardian

    "That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime"

    There's more, but do you really need more?
     
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    That is a different premise than the USA and Al Qaeda working together.

    Again while I agree there was an effort to oust Gaddafi, it is a leap to say we worked with Al Qaeda.

    Now to your suggestion, I doubt anything was needed from the USA to instill more hatred towards the USA in that region. Going to need more than "reports".
     
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    Also some of the main leaders in the LIFG (Libyan Islamists supported by NATO), that ousted Gaddafi were on Americas terrorist list as alQaeda operatives.

    It's not a conspiracy anymore, the conspiracy is that they are in fact separate groups.
     
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    Just reading that guardian article now, the beginning, the sheer stupidity of the intelligence service, wow and the stupidity of the population to allow our government to conduct themselves this way..and not have them locked up.
     
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    You don't think funding, supplying and training equates to 'working together'? What would have to happen for us to be 'working together' in your view?
     
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    Again, "reports" do not equate to evidence. I have issue with the USA taking out Gaddafi, he had the blood of the USA military on his hands. The very same man that exported terrorism in the region himself.
     
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    Your statement is grossly incorrect. It demonstrates a pure lack of knowledge on terrorism. Islamic militia groups are pure evil attacking innocents every chance they get!
     
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    Nu-hu is not a valid argument. Don't waste my time, thanks
     
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    You demonstrated zero proof to validate your statement. Keep believing your false lies. We didn't bring the terrorists to Niger. Just look up October 4, 2017 and Niger and that demonstrates the validity of my point. They are evil. And you have zero foundation in your comments. Keep trying.
     
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    The Burkina Faso president himself has stated that France has made the terrorist situation worse in the sahel. Who are you to doubt the president of Burkina Faso?
     
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    "Who we are" and arming civil revolts that SURELY, most definitely will not come back against the US= Name a better duo. It's getting really annoying to see this government make the same mistake over and over again.
     
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    At a certain point, it begs the question- is it 'mistakes' or deliberate?
     
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