Trump Bond cut to 175 million from 450million

The Bidens are a hard target, and RP pols are bad shots. Their investigation of Hunter in Ukraine was either an uninformed mistake or just another election cycle fundraising tool.
I suppose the Bidens may have done something seriously wrong in China, but RP politicians are not likely to ever prove it. Hunter Biden made monkeys out of them.

The Classified document cases against Trump and Biden are, IMO, a bad joke.
Both parties need to start giving voters positive reasons for voting for them.

 

If you are incapable of accepting the documented reality, I cannot help you.

Did the Loser pleasure himself watching his goons attacking outnumbered police defending the Capitol for four hours as his aides, advisers, media enablers, and family members pleaded with him to call them off?

 

Trump should have enough money to pay for the reduced amounts. Will he have enough money from his billions to pay for other fines when they come to him?

 

He'll definitely have to sell off property to pay it off when the final bill comes due, and he may not even have enough then depending on what kind of debt he owes on those properties.

The ultimate embarrassment will come if he's not even able to meet the new bond amount. I think he can swing it, but if he can't, I'm going to be laughing my ass off.

 

Imagine if you will . . . Trump supporters so desperate to push their fake Trump-is-victim narrative that they pretend they don't know how civil trials work.

I notice you guys still haven't managed to come up with your excuse for why Trump originally said that the 18m price tag WAS TOO HIGH, and that you are still copy/pasting Trump's lie that the judge "ruled" that it was only worth that much.

 

There were no "charges filed".

 

The Constitution prohibits excessive fines and protects the right to petition the government for redress of grievances. The 8th and 1st Amendments, respectively, for reference.

 

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

 

Probably because having to pay the entire amount of the silly judgement just to appeal the ruling is due a process violation. The appellate court has been striking bonus torso photo Engoron down for a while now.

 

Nothing about this is even remotely close to being violated. Did you mean to quote something else?

This is at least closer, but this isn't bail. He's appealing the fine, but heavier fines have been levied in the past. At best, this gets busted down to closer to 200 million. At best.

 

The documented reality is the $400M+ number included interest and this was a civil trial, not a criminal one. Your posts to the contrary were misinformation and fake news. I tried helping you, but for some reason you just want to emote about unrelated things rather than take responsibility for injecting misinformation into the thread.

I'm not sure why you're thinking about Trump pleasuring himself or why it's relevant... but it explains a lot.

 

Until the appeal goes through then it will and the state of new york will be dependent on Trump to not sue them into oblivion for wrong full prosecution.

 

Since you admit that the bond violates the 8th Amendment, you can probably understand how the excessive bond violated the 1st Amendment, because it violates Trump's right to petition the government for redress of grievances.

Post links to heavier fines for the exact same civil fraud case.

 

Prove it with credible sources.

 

I wish I could say the appeals court was protecting Trump's rights, but they're protecting the case from being completely thrown out.

 

Link?

 

The fine still exists. The corrupt judge Engoron said Trump had to pay the full amount before he was allowed to appeal the ruling, knowing it would likely be cut or thrown out. The judge knew Trump had about $500M in cash he was intending to use for his campaign and wanted to drain him of his liquid assets to prevent him from spending the money on his campaign.

He also made a ruling that said he wasn't legally allowed to do business in NY making it extremely difficult to acquire the funds. It's also why he set a very short deadline to pay the full $450M.

The whole thing was corrupt. Trump appealed the ruling and the appellate court did three things:

1. Reduced the BOND to something closer to what defendants not named Trump have to pay to appeal (most don't have to post anything to appeal).
2. Extended the timeline for Trump to convert funds/assets to cash to pay the new bond amount.
3. Delayed all the non-monetary restrictions on Trump preventing him from running his businesses pending appeal.

In other words, they said Engoron was wrong to put all of these punative measures in place pending appeal. Appellate court rulings often take into account the likelihood of the appeal when making decisions like these, so some could read into this that Engoron might lose a little more than he already has at the appellate court. Engoron doesn't really know what he's doing here. These specialized cases are typically handled by the Commercial Courts, but Engoron refused to release the case to someone else. So he had his hyper-partisan law clerk (who lost her judgeship election) co-judge the case and make most of the important decisions for him.

 

Trump got his reduced fine amount, but he cannot delay the trial.

 

Sounds like it makes sense.

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

Trump Facing Moment of Truth for Finances in Manhattan Court (msn.com)



Donald Trump at New York State Supreme Court in New York on Feb. 15.© Photographer: Steven Hirsch/New York Post/Bloomberg
(Bloomberg) -- As Donald Trump sits in a Manhattan courtroom Monday for a hearing in one of his criminal cases, he also faces a potential moment of truth for his finances: a deadline to either post a bond covering a $454 million civil fraud verdict or risk having New York state start seizing his assets.

 

Trump Only Has To Pay $175 Million In Civil Fraud Case, Court Rules—For Now (msn.com)
Check it out.

 

It's worth noting that things are strange in NY. The Supreme Court is actually a fairly low level court. It's not even an appellate court.

This is different than the federal system where the Supreme Court is the highest court. I've seen a lot of people get confused by that. You didn't make that mistake, but I saw the photo caption and figured I'd throw it out there for whoever stumbles across this thread.

 

What trial?