Trump Bond cut to 175 million from 450million

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  1. Richard Franks

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    It's going to be a long hard battle as I can see this.
     
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    Definitely. The NY courts won't be friendly and federal courts are wary to get involved in state issues unless the matter is extremely egregious from a federal perspective.
     
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    That you can bet on.
    Trump to Face April 15 Hush Money Criminal Trial (voanews.com)
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    Justice Juan Merchan presides during a hearing before the trial of former U.S. President Donald Trump, in Manhattan state court in New York City, March 25, 2024, in this courtroom sketch.
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    Former President Donald Trump speaks during a press conference at 40 Wall Street after a pre-trial hearing at Manhattan criminal court, March 25, 2024, in New York.

    Donald Trump was ordered Monday to stand trial in a criminal case, the first ever against a U.S. president, on April 15 in New York.

    The hush money case is perhaps the only one of an unprecedented four indictments against Trump that will go to trial before the November election where he will face President Joe Biden for a new term in the White House.

    Trump had sought to delay the New York case, but Judge Juan Merchan rejected his efforts to postpone it or dismiss the entirety of the allegations that he covered up a hush money payment to a porn star just ahead of the 2016 presidential election to hide it from voters before he unexpectedly won the presidency.

    Merchan rejected a Trump lawyer’s claim that a lengthy delay in the trial was necessary to give Trump’s lawyers and prosecutors more time to review thousands of pages of newly disclosed documents from a previous federal investigation of the case. A prosecutor told Merchan most of the documents were irrelevant.

    “It’s odd that we’re even here,” Merchan said before setting the new trial date in a case that originally had been slated to start Monday.

    As he ended the hearing, Merchan said, “See you all on the 15th.”

    Trump contended Merchan was being partisan in setting the start of the trial in three weeks. “I don’t know how you can have a trial that is going on right in the middle of the election,” Trump said. “It’s not fair.”


    This April 15, 2024, trial might stick unless Trump might have something up his sleeve. What that is remains to be seen. Wait and see what happens
     
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    Appeal bonds - requiring the whole or part of a judgement pending an appeal decision - are standard procedure.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/...pealing involves,few weeks after the judgment.
     
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    There were seven charges (properly, causes of action, as this is a civil suit) detailed - in full - in a 222-page indictment.
     
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    It is a factual piece on appeals bonds, not an editorial discussing an author's opinion of a particular judgement.
     
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    Please show us the jury verdict on the case...
     
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    Why do you think there would be a jury? As with ALL civil cases seeking equitable relief (e.g. disgorgement), it's a bench trial.
     
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    Nope... Engoron made a judgement before any trial....
     
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    Again, it's a bench trial - it begins when the case lands with the judge, in the course of which he may issue preliminary injunctions, summary judgments, allow or dismiss motions, and so on and so forth, according to the nature of the complaint in hand, and the specific causes it contains. In this case, a preliminary injunction appointed a monitor of specific financial activities in the Trump Org. The first cause of action was a stand-alone "documents" claim and as such was therefore disposed by summary judgment, while the remaining 6 causes required proof of intent and therefore witnesses, etc. You may term only this latter part as the "trial" but the entire sequence of events - including Trump's various motions - comprises the trial.
     
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    If the Loser did not take pleasure in watching his goons attack outnumbered police for hours, why did he not act responsibly by calling upon his goons whom he had incited to stop, despite the pleas of aides, advisors, media enablers, and family members? Why did he ignore his Constitutional responsibilities?


    Trump was watching TV in the White House dining room for the bulk of the attack on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, according to a new compilation of video depositions from former officials given to the House Select Committee investigating the siege...

    Witnesses in the room were Matthew Pottinger, a deputy national security adviser under Trump, and Sarah Matthews, a deputy press secretary in his White House. Both resigned in the hours following the riot. "If the president had wanted to make a statement and address the American people, he could have been on camera almost immediately," Matthews testified. "If he had wanted to make an address from the Oval Office, we could have assembled the White House press corps within minutes."

    Former White House officials such as
    Kayleigh McEnany and Pat Cipollone said Trump was holed up in the dining room next to the Oval Office as the attack unfolded. According to Cipollone, who served as White House counsel, images of the violence unfolding were on the screen as Trump watched.

    Other officials said Trump did not move to the Oval Office or the Situation room to coordinate a response.
     
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    Note that is a bond and once the appeals dump that crap in the sewer he gets it all back.
     
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    A that isn't his job and B, He'd already offered the national guard that was all he could do and it was turned down. I suspect the reason for that was that the dems didn't want anyone there who wasn't in on the fix. Oh and C. it wasn't his riot or for the most part his people running.
     
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    If the bullfrog had wings...
     
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    Your hyper-partisan paranoia is laughably addled.

    Why did the Loser's aides, advisers, media enablers, and family members plead with him to call off his goons whom he had incited to attack outnumbered police defending the Capitol if defending the U.S. Constitution wasn't "his job"?

    The lies have been exposed:

    Fact check: Trump did not request 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6

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    TRUMP'S GOONS ASSAULTED THE CAPITOL FOR HOURS WHILE HE WATCHED
     
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    Wuuuut? IF, tRaitor tRump loses his appeal then of course DA James will be entitled to enforce Judge Engoron's judgment of $450++ million.

    BUT! Even if he wins, a lesser penalty will most certainly be made, and DA James will go after that amount, whatever it may be. Millions of dollars, is certain.
     
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    That he "offered National Guard Troops doesn't absolve him of his Presidential Responsibilities to stop the chaos at our Capital. :shock:

    People, doesn't matter who they were, were attacking the Capital of the United States and tRaitor tRump refused to say anything to try and stop it for 3 hours while he watched in his dinning room. That's dereliction of duty, and failure to uphold his oath of office ... AT ... A ... MINIMUM!

    It doesn't matter who's fault it was, tRaitor tRump's fault, "Nancy's Fault, nobody's fault; it was his responsibility to do all he could to stop it as quickly as possible. And for three + hours he did NOTHING!!!! :eyepopping:
     
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    How so?
     
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    :roflol:

    Good one!

    It's done all the time.
     
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    A, it is his job and no one else’s.

    Once his goons and useful idiots started the riot they were recruited for, Trump refused to do his duty.
     
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    This is NOT a criminal case.
     

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