Trump or Biden, US foreign policy endangers the world

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    They were working on it at the time Biden handlers stole the election. Saudi's chose to normalize relations with their mortal enemy Iran because the long ago made the assumption that the Democrats and the Biden regime in particular couldn't be trusted any further than the crown prince could throw a battleship.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    They are gone now aren't they?
    All of it wrong. Of course
     
  3. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Are what gone?
    No, it's not. If it was you would attempt to prove you are right but you won't because you're not.
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

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    Absolute silliness.

    Is the US perfect? Absolutley not.

    Would the world look drastically different and for the worse if the US did not intervene? No doubt.
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blame the US when everything else fails.
     
  6. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The Tariffs are currently gone Joe didn't do it day one because they were enacted by congress. Apolgist for the admi,stration carry no weight nor should. The 6billion dollars of frozen Iranian assets were but the tip of the Iceberg Joe's refusal to enforce trump era sanctions against Iran has given them several billion a month in oil revenue more than enough to finance their terror war against Israel and blockade the Suez Canal
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Wrong, they are still there.
    https://www.axios.com/2024/01/05/biden-keep-many-trump-china-tariffs
    They still have a country to run and their economy is in trouble.
     
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    I thought you said you were going to explain what reality is whether he wanted to hear it or not? There is no reality where Biden stole the election(and in fact, it was Trump who tried TRIED to steal the election but lucky for all of us, he failed in that too), so that calls in to question your grasp of reality in the other areas as well.
     
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    Trump or Biden, US foreign policy endangers the world

    Yes. Our foreign policy has been a disaster for decades. It endangers us as well.
     
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    Neither Trump nor Biden stole the election Biden can't find the way off stage without help. Nor did either attempt to steal the election. The democrat steal was orchestrated much further down the chain of command.
     
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    The first looks like typical leftist form over substance nonsense and the story indicates reading between the lines that they have been ignoring those tariffs for most of the last three years.
    and Biden gave them a 150 billion to jack up everybody. The Iranian leadership is not by and large composed of rational actors oh and everybody's economy is in bad shape and that's largely because everybody's government is too busy trying to empower itself than attempting to effectively govern.
     
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    They didn't go anywhere, but how is a "peace treaty" between countries which have never been at war could possibly accomplish anything other than a photo OP? Having said that, some argue that the potential expansion of the treaty was the very thing which triggered the Hamas attack on Israel. In that sense the whole thing might have been a big mistake.

    Yes. The "sky is falling" crowd will always tell you things are worse than ever, and nuclear war and rapture is coming etc.....
     
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    Is there an argument here? No
    Is there just opinion here? Yes
    Do I agree with that opinion? Not a chance.
    Have you given any proof to back your opinion. Not a chance.
     
  14. garyd

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    So then where are the houthi s getting all those missiles" If Iran's economy is failing. other peoples opinions are no better than yours or mine. As for proof read your own article Bringing back trump era tariffs would suggest that they haven't been being applied.
     
  15. drluggit

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    So, we are using Chinese propaganda these days..... I suppose if you were intent of spreading the China sauce, this is one place you might start...
     
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    An interesting view from the resident neo-libs.... NATO expansion isn't stabilizing much in eastern Europe, for example. And the more the democrats and the lefty parties around the world are synthesizing the red Chinese perspective, this certainly doesn't seem to address the real geo-political realities of an aggressive China...
     
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    Only enough that Putin hasn't attacked them.

    Russia's woes in Ukraine, thanks to our support, are a clear sign of what China can expect if they try to pull something like this.
     
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    Utterly laughable. Joe Biden has advertised for all the world to see that if you're the aggressor, the world is your oyster to take.
     
  19. Lil Mike

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    Well we probably should have stopped immigration in 1890 then.
     
  20. 9royhobbs

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    Intelligence says from Iran. So what.
    The article says nothing of the kind.
    Right now, I'm only interested that my opinion is more informed than yours.
     

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