So you think Trump is going to win the election, eh? Not so fast.....

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Apr 6, 2024.

  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    Point taken. My apologies.
     
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    Biden, took documents and had them

    Trump, took documents and had them

    Neither trump nor Biden are being charged with any crime because of this.

    Biden, when asked for the documents back promptly gave them up to the appropriate authority's.

    trump, when asked for the documents back did not give them up to the appropriate authority's but instead tried to keep them.

    Biden is not being charged for keeping the documents because he gave them back when asked

    trump is being charged for keeping the documents because he did not gave them back when asked
     
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  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know about Oklahoma. But here is what you said. That does not sound like honest and less biased to me.
     
  4. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reagan is long gone and I know nothing about it.

    A small number was found at Pence's home.

    Biden had a large number of them dating back to the time he was a senator.
     
  5. Zorro

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    Oh, I'm sure that it's possible that you guys will steal another one.
     
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    Biden gets a bad rap because every previous president has taken credit for a good economy and gets blamed for a bad economy. When the economy is good, going great guns, presidents holler from the highest mountain that it was their policies that caused the good economy. Because of this, when the economy turns sour, takes a downturn, inflation hits, it’s a natural for everyone to blame whoever is president. My own view is the economy is like the weather. No president nor government controls it. The weather and the economy are going to do whatever the weather and the economy wants to do. If presidents or governments could control the economy, we’d have all ups, all good times, no downs, no bad times.


    I don’t blame Biden, but most Americans do. He’s president, he’s the one in charge, the leader of this country. Most believe it’s the president’s job to fix it. That’s what they hired him for. Bad rap or not, if presidents would stop taking the credit for a good economy, then presidents wouldn’t get blamed. But no president when times are good will fail to take all the credit in the world. Today, 39.6% of all Americans approve of Biden’s handling of the economy, 57.8% disapprove.


    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/economy
     
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    Amazing.... the left just does not get it... the more you screw with Trump.... the more people will back him.... American voters are not stupid and see what is going on... and yes Trump can get elected if convicted... Folks are setting in their living rooms in awe at the flagrant crap the Democrats are trying to pull here....
     
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    Why can't trump lose?
     
  9. MiaBleu

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    Don't think the legal issues were politically motivated. What has transpired is that Trump has made them "poliltcal", using them to gain sympathy for his "victimhood"........and also using tactics to delay them until after the election. He is gambling on wining the presidency so he can absolve himself of al those pesky legal issues HE himself created. If he loses.....we will have more "stolen election" nonsense, self pity, anger , blame laying, and crazy theater because the juvenile bloke cannot lose like a decent adult .
    Either way, it is not an election to look forward to, as the toxicity from the Trump camp will continue one way or another.
     
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    blaming Biden for inflation is totally misplaced .
     
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    Yeah he's a winner
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  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    You'll first have to prove we stole the first one for that to be a valid point.

    All you've done so far is blow smoke.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think, for the good of this nation, Trump must be stopped by any legal means necessary, and if he is incarcerated, all the better. He hasn't given 10s of thousands of people a fair shake, he has screwed thousands out of millions and I'm not concerned if all the members of the Jury in NY are not MAGA types. I do not believe MAGA types are capable of be objective if they are on the jury. I'd give non MAGA types that respect long before I would give them that respect.

    Trump is nauseating. Everytime he opens his mouth something stupid falls out. Nothing he says is true, he's in it for himself, he has no compassion, little knowledge of history, he lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring, is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs, when a man like Trump who is a traitor and a malignancy in our nation and who represents a clear and present danger to our democracy and the rule of law, and then someone like you tells me you want to vote for him, I'm thinking, how is it possible that you don't see what I see? Haven't you seen the film 'You've Been Trumped'? I suspect there is ton of evidence you haven't even look at, or confirmed.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If any of what you are insinuating were true, you'd have a point.

    You call yourself a 'lawyer', and 'educated' and you traffic in petty one-sided memes.

    Shame on you.
     
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    The dirts of the FBI and the Intelligence Community deliberately lied about Hunter's laptop to rig the election for Bribed Joe. This is known.

    Now they are trying to rig this election by jailing Trump, you know that as well. You are dismissed.
     
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    Yea we know, trump is as pure as the driven snow.
     
  17. StillBlue

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    The longer he drags these cases out the more money he raises.
     
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    If the police or FBI find your wallet on the road without definitive ID would you expect them to put out bulletins that they found a wallet or that they found a wallet with pictures of a man and woman doing unusual things? It's not their place. Yes, they knew who's computer it was but as the owner refused initially to reclaim it and while yes there were embarrassing things on it there also was nothing illegal for them to act upon.

    The only question of illegality here is was the distribution of what was on it illegal? That is for a court to decide and why Hunter, while never in possession of the laptop had it put in evidence for a trial.

    Also, if T**** is jailed it will be by a jury his own lawyers helped select. He has has financial cases go against him but they don't often have juries, his criminal trials will unless he requests no jury, a distinct possibility with his Florida Judge but not likely in Georgia or DC.
     
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    Large number? I think it was six in the garage and some were only the first page containing no info. And I think that the ones in the university office were of low category. Now compare that to the number of files that Trump first lied about having and then refusing to give them back and then hiding the ones that he kept after some were taken back
     
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    I don't think they're politically motivated. I KNOW they're politically motivated.
     
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    He had boxes of documents dating all the way back to when he was a senator. They were in a number of unsecure locations including his garage.
     
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    There was/is and never was anything on the "Hunter" laptop that would have affected President Biden's election.<-period

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    "In October 2020, a controversy emerged surrounding data from a laptop that allegedly belonged to Hunter Biden. The laptop was reportedly left at a Delaware computer shop by a man who identified himself as Hunter Biden. The shop owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, claimed ownership of the laptop. However, due to Mac Isaac’s legal blindness, he couldn’t be certain whether the man was indeed Hunter Biden1.

    Three weeks before the 2020 United States presidential election, the New York Post published a front-page story based on emails from the laptop. The story alleged corruption by Joe Biden, the Democratic presidential nominee and Hunter Biden’s father. The information was reportedly provided to Rudy Giuliani, the personal attorney of then-incumbent President Donald Trump, by Mac Isaac1.

    Forensic analysis later authenticated some of the emails from the laptop, including one used by the New York Post in their initial reporting123 . Trump attempted to use this story as an “October surprise” to damage Joe Biden’s campaign, falsely alleging that Biden had acted corruptly regarding Ukraine to protect his son .

    The FBI seized the laptop from Mac Isaac in December 2019 under the authority of a subpoena issued by a Wilmington grand jury. While there has been less doubt over time that the laptop indeed belonged to Hunter Biden, it hasn’t revealed any illegal or unethical behavior by Joe Biden during his tenure as vice president with regard to his son’s position at Burisma1 .

    In November 2022, CBS News published a forensic analysis that concluded the “clean” data from the laptop, including over 120,000 emails, originated with Hunter Biden and had not been altered. Other copies circulated by Republican operatives "could have been tampered with"2. The Washington Post also authenticated a number of emails from the laptop3.

    So, while the laptop exists, its contents haven’t proven significant wrongdoing by Joe Biden."



    But, what this trial IS about, IS tRaitor tRump had his attourney create lie's about and extramarital affair with a whore, shortly after his wife had given birth AND paid the whore to keep quiet about it so ... wait for it ... "to rig the election for" ... that's right ... tRaitor tRump.
    Who's they? The NYC-DA has charged tRaitor tRump on 34 counts of fraudulent election interference for paying Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about they liaison just weeks before the 2016 election. "We", I guess, would be the City of New York?

    Isn't it funny how that fraud word hangs like an odious odder around tRaitor tRump like the smell of his diaper; it just follows him wherever he goes. :shock:
     
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    Rights, like the right to a fair trial, are paramount. Without them, there is no America. In what sense is it democratic to imprison someone to prevent their election to office? I'd rather have a prison president than set the precedent that NYC (or any city) can define who the rest of the nation can vote for.
     
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    TRaitor tRump will be judged by his NYC peers.
    Well, except for the other 321 million, or so, other Americans.
    In no sense, but it's prefect sense to try people for crimes and imprison them IF convicted ... NO MATTER WHO the **** they are.
    TRaitor tRump's "Hush Money", election interference trial, has nothing to do with who can run for office. It's about following the rules when you do.<-period
     
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    How many times do I have to point out that such statements are virtually impossible to be true and impossible to know for sure, but you persist in saying them.
     

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