The Looming Ukraine Debacle

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  1. Bill Carson

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    :bored: Turns out Russia isn't a gas station with nukes after all. Too bad the ignorant people who believed that nonsense are in positions of leadership in the West. Gonna take a while to get over that bruised ego. :nod:

    "There is indeed a serious risk that, rather than the West teaching Russia a lesson and putting Putin in his place, the opposite may occur."

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/looming-ukraine-debacle-210160
     
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    "National Interest".....apparently has about 2000 subscribers....according to Wiki.

    File this under "G"....= garbage.
     
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    I am a bit shy, but Russia exists more than any Western country :) That situation is very typical. Some young man starts showing off and gets a kick in his bag from an adult guy.
     
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    :)....we did teach a lesson....make that 2 lessons....where is USSR & Warsaw Pact?
     
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    Ukraine does need the military aid both sides in Congress have been playing games with. It has been held up for half a year now and the situation is getting critical.
     
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    Yes, Congress should pass this ....soon enough.

    I suspect they will....
     
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    The really frustrating thing is that the total amount of military aid Ukraine needs to stop Russia in its tracks and de-fang it's conventional forces for the best part of decade is a tiny % of the total US defense budget and not one US soldier has to be put at risk to do it! The US and NATO get all the benefits for none of the risks beyond the financing it. The best bit being that by the time Russia does rearm (which it will) most of NATO's other big players will be well on the way to re-arming themselves because they also know Putin isn't going anywhere soon and know he has to be contained until Satan calls him home for a debrief.
     
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    Guy, do you know that Ukraine had attacked Russia first? And next Russia started limited military operation there?
     
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    I am still looking for some strategic reason for us to be involved with Ukraine at all. Why are they of some essential value to US national Security? They aren't NATO. They weren't so strategic when they were PART of Russia's USSR. Why are we spending so many billions protecting Ukraine's borders while we leave our own wide open?
     
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    Where did Ukraine attack RuZzia?
     
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    Orwell would cringe to read this.
     
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    But you don't want to discuss this issue? As an American, do you just assert something and then consider it as the absolute truth?
     
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    Are you really from Georgia? I mean a former republic of the USSR, not an American state?
     
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    And opportunity to kill Russians is enough.
     
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    Never been to Tbilisi..is it?....I hear it's a nice place.

    Anyway....answer the question I asked?
     
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    I'm hearing major bangers in Sevastopol?....heard as far away as Yevpatoria?

    That sounds bad?:)
     
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    the strategic reason to support youkraine, from a nato pov is that any proxy that is willing to fight against russia will be backed by nato, purely because russia is a super power. if russia becomes weak, usa becomes stronger. geopolitricks.
     
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    It's strange because your English is too bad.

    It WAS a nice place when Georgia was a part of the USSR. Now it is a beggar territory. Idiots can't have a good state.
     
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    every part of the U.S.S.R was a cess pool
     
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    For some time now the west has only toxic leadership.

    Russia has very much the opposite. Russia's leaders protect their country. Western leaders are greedy traitors, pushing DEI and woke nonsense.
     
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    Ummm...when I say Tbilisi.....IS IT?....means the capital and that's what its called?

    Orcs don't understand English colloquium...no surprise.

    I seriously don't think you were a "professor ".

    Nothing was "nice" during Soviet times....dark,drab....& miserable.

    Idiots can't have good state?

    Is that why 40 000 000 + vatniks shyt outside?

    BTW....UAF thanks USA for providing large shipment of Iranian weapons that were bound for Yemen. They were intercepted, and it was found that it could well provide for possibly 2 brigades..maybe more. I expect many dead orcs shortly.:)
     
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    Oh, no. According an Official statistics Russia and Belorusia feeded all other 13 republics. The most rich republic was Georgia. It happened maybe because Stalin was an Georgian. When they left the USSR Russia started living better, all others started living worse. Much worse.There is no any strange thing here.
     
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    In Russian Empire it is called Tiflis.
    Are you an Orc?
     
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    There is no "Russian Empire".....there won't be a RuZzian Federation in the near future.

    Have you started any Mandarin classes yet?
     
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    China is going to die in the near future as well.
     
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