What will Biden do if Iran attacks Israel?

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    Dread the day when Iran gets nuclear weapons. Their leaders are crazy enough to think they will win it. It’s long been rumored that Israel has the bomb. If so, that could be the start of a major catastrophe.
     
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    Biden is a proven coward from Afghanistan to defending US airspace to responding when Russia knocks down a Predator. He will do NOTHING.
     
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    What will Biden do if Iran attacks Israel?
    He will send Iran more tax payer money to buy their peace... Biden is very generous with other peoples money.... I now have a student loan debt I never realized I had before...
     
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    Anyone that thinks Iran doesn't have nukes, isn't paying attention. Iran has been "a few years away" from nuclear weapons for over 20 years. North Korea, unable to process its nuclear materials properly, had Iran do it for them years ago. Look closely at North Korean missile tests. You'll see Iranian support teams there. It's estimated that North Korea has 50 nukes. It's a good bet that Itan has at least that many.

    Some years ago, the Pentagon was running scared about a very nasty possible scenario that went something like this:
    Iran would place a nuke in a number of ship's holds, flagged in various countries. The ships would pull into US ports coast to coast and at a designated moment, detonate the nukes. Meanwhile, the Iranian warship KHARG (refueler, helicopter tender, etc.) would use one of its helicopter elevators to raise a TEL (SCUD Transporter Erector Launcher) above decks. (Part of the deal with North Korea was for them to supply Iran with SUPERSCUDS... smaller payload... greater range). The SCUD would detonate a nuke over the central USA, causing EMP damage in the heartland. This was all years ago and its interesting to note that the KHARG went on fire and sank mysteriously. There is speculation it was a SEAL TEAM at work.
     
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    Quiet in the sense that there doesn't seem to be much rhetoric coming out of the Iranian government or their media outlets threatening an attack on Israel. There is the address by Khamenei, but that isn't particularly extreme.

    There has been continual low intensity conflict between US and Iranian special forces since the '80s. It waxes and wanes depending on the political situation in each country. Generally, we have not engaged in as many assassinations of Iranian scientists and military officers as Israel has.
     
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    There is no October 7 without Iran. Most people think Iran isn't going to act directly but rather insist that their Hezbollah proxies get more aggressive. Having seen the Israeli knock out punch Israel is laying on Hamas I suspect that Hezbollah is a bit leery of trying that crap without a lot more direct involvement from Iran. So we shall see what happens It may be that Hezbollah isn't interested in being the 2nd futile pawn sacrifice.
     
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    One of the reasons Israel has been given US theater range ABM
     
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    They, as all world leaders, support President Biden because he’s a stable known quantity. TRaitor tRump on the other hand can be depended on to do the perfectly wrong thing at the perfectly wrong time in the perfectly wrong way. Especially if it enters his mind he could somehow make a buck as a result, even if blowing up the world might be a consequence.
     
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    Japan didn't have a lot of media coverage about Pearl Harbor before they attacked either.
     
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    Iran has fired a bunch of slow moving cruise missiles and drones at Israel, and yet to be seen is whether Hezbollah will fire a massive swarm of dummy missiles at Israel to overload the Iron Dome and clear the path for the strike from Iran.

    OLD AND SUDDENLY RELEVANT: How the Obama Administration Let Hezbollah Off the Hook.

    'In its determination to secure a nuclear deal with Iran, the Obama administration derailed an ambitious law enforcement campaign targeting drug trafficking by the Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah, even as it was funneling cocaine into the United States'

    'Donald Trump had Iran broke. Joe Biden gave the Iran Regime hundreds of billions of dollars in sanctions relief, credit and cash. Iran is now attacking Israel with Joe Biden’s money.'

    ~Ric Grennell

    https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1779243940178538737?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1779243940178538737|twgr^3d36671b8e21b8cfd907ea91c3f866d96a352bbd|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://instapundit.com/641819/

    'Joe Biden claimed that if Trump were to be re-elected, he would "get us to war in Iran" The comments were made during his 2020 presidential election campaign'
     
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    What will Biden do if Iran attacks Israel?

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    They are pushing the fact that Isael had shot down 99% of the drones and missiles. The problem is that shooting down the missiles costs much more than the incoming missiles.. It saves lives, but the dollar cost is very high and then there is the effect that both the incoming missiles and the defending missiles may end up falling on Israel with the possible loss of life and other damage.
     
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    One thing is for certain, whatever Biden does, the RW will claim it's the worst thing ever. Even if Bibi manages to suck the US into a war with Iran, which he has been trying forever, they'll still side with Bibi and blame Biden.
     
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    The US developed the Patriot missile to protect troops. With that in mind it is designed with a "proximity fuse" which detonates it near enough to the incoming missile/aircraft to knock it down but not necessarily destroy it. During Desert Storm this resulted in incoming SCUDS to be knocked down but, as you say, the SCUD fell, sometimes into populated areas. The Israeli ARROW missile is much more precise and actually destroys the incoming to the point there are few large pieces left and dropping to the ground is much less hazardous. Israel gave us their ARROW guidance and fusing systems which we have incorporated into our PATRIOT PAC-3. This pretty much precludes any danger from falling debris.

    IRON DOME doesn't cost much in ammunition relative to what it shoots down. Its a short range system designed mainly to knock down smaller incoming targets like UAV's. Actually, its ORIGINAL purpose was to shoot down artillery, rockets and mortars.
     
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    It is a one defense missile per incoming missile, at best. It is nearly impossible to determine the cost of each, but the defensive missile must have some kind of detection system plus proximity fuse and explosives. The drones are a relatively simple aircraft with an elementary guidance system and explosives. It is likely that each defensive missile costs several time the cost of the vehicle it is shooting down.
     
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    What will Biden do if Iran attacks Israel?

    I had predicted that Iran would do nothing and I was dead wrong. I also predicted that Biden wouldn't get involved in anything related to Iran and I was dead wrong there as well. So much for my poor predictions. Iran did attack Israel and Biden sent the U.S. air force to help shoot down the missiles and drones as he should have. Glad I was wrong about that. Thumbs up to the Air Force.
     
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    Iran's Supreme Leader Has Crossed an Israeli Red Line

    Launched more than 200 direct strikes from Iranian soil to Israel.

    'By crossing a red line of a direct attack against Israel from Iranian soil, he opened the door for Jerusalem to hit back hard.'

    'Potential targets include leadership and military assets inside Iran, oil refineries, which are the lifeblood of his regime, and his rapidly expanding nuclear weapons program.'

    We'll see how Israel responds, and what Biden will do about that.
     
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    What taxpayer money has Biden sent Iran?
     
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    Well, Iran just opened the door for direct attacks from Israel, and Israel knows their program is being designed to annihilate Israel.

    World In Shock As Murderous Terrorist State Ignores Warning From Impotent Old Man https://buff.ly/3JfD1wW

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    'Despite President Biden telling the Iranians, "Don't", the Iranians did, much to the surprise of billions around the world. "I really can't believe the regime that openly financed the murder and rape of hundreds of Israelis had the nerve to stand up to a decrepit old fool," said local man Donald Stanley. "Who could have possibly seen this coming?"'
     
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    Are you kidding? At this point world leaders almost absolutely trust that of all possible choices Biden and his coterie incompetent intersectionalities will pick the absolute worst.
     
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    Yell "Don't!" at Israel, just like he told Iran, "Don't!"

    'Biden tells Iran not to launch an attack. They do it anyways with unprecedented firepower. Biden responds by demanding Israel not retaliate and leaks it to the press as a signal to certain voters.'

    https://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/st...n^s1_&ref_url=https://instapundit.com/641834/
     
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    Wait....so you're saying if Biden makes the decision to go after Iran it's someone else's fault, another person made that decision for him? People making decisions for Biden, which he rubber stamps, isn't new, but the buck will stop with him if he chooses to go to war.
     
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    That’s BULLSHIT, and “world leaders” haven’t huddled up to laugh at him behind his back … like they did tRaitor tRump.
     
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