Iran launches dozens of drones toward Israel

To call the deceased military LOSERS, tells one everything one needs to know about this horrible person. These professional people DIED for the country. It is HE that is the sick LOSER and a danger to the country. Nothing can justify his ugly attitude . One of his MOST STUPID comments in a list of many.

 

Well, the article laid out some details.

Any links to support a "couple thousand a piece"? Cheers

 

Didn't Trump use the military when he was President?

 

I don't need links. I design such systems. You don't use a 3.5 million dollar missile to take out a $30,000 drone flying at 120 mph. Even the jet powered drones Iran has are easily shot down directly with gun cannons or if you are really wanting to take them out then use air-to-air missiles. Missiles can likewise be taken out quite easily now, without the need for $3.5 million shots. Newer systems can actually take them out even more inexpensively. Most all of the attack platforms were taken out well before they reached Israeli airspace.

The incoming ordnance you see in the 2 videos I saw posted were intercepted. How do you know that? Because you can see them glowing. Why are they glowing? Because they were on fire after having been intercepted. The flight motors for longer range missile systems don't burn for hundreds of miles until they reach there targets. The flight motors for high speed missiles burn for a couple minutes at most, giving it enough kinetic energy to reach its target. What you see in the videos are pieces of intercepted platforms glowing as they fall to Earth. You should note the falling debris can and does cause damage of it's own as it crashes into the ground. But it is no longer being guided to a target and any warhead rarely explodes. Unspent fuel vapor will explode, but most of the damage is literally kinetic in nature. When a missile is intercepted it becomes a hunk of unguided debris which will ON AVERAGE get dispersed in a pattern such that the center of mass of all the pieces still fall in the same location it would have impacted prior to interception (actually slightly altered due to the momentum of the intercepting round). This is true whether it explodes into a million pieces or whether it just gets disabled, since every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The few missiles which did get through and approached their intended targets were intercepted and many appeared to be intercepted twice in an effort to further break up the larger pieces falling to the ground. Regardless, the small number which approached their targets might have necessitated a few dozen of the more expensive interceptors guarding very near the bases.

It was one of these intercepted hunks of metal falling to the ground which just happened to injure a young girl many many miles from its intended target where it was intercepted and happened to fall on or near her. Very unlucky girl. War is hell and collateral damage often occurs.

Also note, the video shows the same impacts several times to make it appear there were more impacts than the reality. It is cut and spliced, repeating the video several times.

 

That's not damage. That is money in the pockets of the MIC and politicians invested in the defense industry, lol.

 

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It isn't money in anyone's pocket because $1.35B worth of interceptor ordnance was not used to thwart the attack. No where close. Most of the stuff launched was able to be taken out with machine gun rounds from aircraft down to and including helicopter gunships. They are slow moving targets to shoot down. Some are so slow they are below the stall speed of jet aircraft, actually making it easier to vector helicopters onto them and shoot them down with 30mm machine guns. Even the relatively few instances were Iran launched missiles (e.g. cruise missiles) they can be taken out easily. Very high speed missiles (there weren't all that many) require a different intercept system. But it too isn't at all expensive. It might surprise you the cost is comparable to your weekly grocery budget. Not your family's, just yours. Any which manage to escape intercept were taken out by the few EXPENSIVE intercepts needed to finish off the job in close proximity to the airbases.

The point is, there is little doubt the cost to shoot them down was a small fraction of what it cost Iran to send them.

 

It will still be used to justify spending even more on weapon systems, and to develop improved systems, etc etc. War is a money making scheme, with nothing to do with morality or righteousness. Especially conflicts like this one. Both sides are so corrupt and twisted that there is no moral high ground. It is just a race to see who can kill more innocents. At the moment Israel has the high score of most innocents slaughtered, though that is only because we back them so heavily for some reason.

 

Oh, the people of Israel received Iran's message with mixed feelings. Personally, I'm torn between contempt and gratitude.

Yesterday was a wonderful, unexpected holiday for me and many other Israelis who couldn't go to work due to your government's useless show of force. My friend and I had morning coffee at the local Roladin (best coffee in Israel), then went shopping. The mall was full of people enjoying the holiday. We bought clothes and had hamburgers, fries, pizza, and ice cream. We talked, laughed, had lots of fun.

I can't go to work today either. I'll have another fun-filled day.

 

To some extent I would agree. We definitely have a defense infrastructure who benefit from conflicts. The graft in the Afghanistan conflict was legendary. Perhaps not as bad as many would have you believe. It is likely somewhere in between.

As for a supposed "race to kill innocents", I think that's not at all the case. Israel doesn't benefit from killing innocents, it hurts its cause. I also wouldn't believe the numbers claimed by Hamas in any way approach reality. And there is no way to confirm or deny the numbers publicized by either side. How can one know on a case by case basis whether they were insurgents or non-combatants? It is a highly active battle field where Hamas isn't wearing distinguishable insignia. While I have seen a few injured who weren't likely combatants, not many. In any war there will be some unintended casualties. Israel obviously isn't targeting them and definitely doesn't benefit in doing so.

 

I hope you have a wonderful day Pisa. We will continue to conduct our practice exercises shooting down drones, cruise missiles and the like. The fortunate thing is, Iran is supplying the targets free of charge so we don't have to expend much needed resources providing the targets. Its an excellent test and development opportunity for some of our latest stuff.

 

Glad you enjoyed yourself as Iran's strike wasn't aiming to target civilians. Now lets see if Israel will stand by its threat before the strike to retaliate against Iranian territory in case Iran launched attacks from its own territory or, instead, declare victory (as it is being encouraged by the US and company) and show (your contempt aside) that it understood Iran's message (and the follow up warnings it received from Iran)? Israel feeling emboldened or alternatively feel more constrained attacking Iranian targets will be the true test of the success or failure of Iran's operation. The rest is spin and propaganda.

 

Let's not forget why the people of Iran have a bad attitude toward the US. This is very relevant to the issue.

How our covert wars have created enemies
across the Middle East and brought terror to America.
https://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zepezauer_Mark/Iran_Boomerang.html
(excerpt)
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The history of America's relationship with Iran illustrates the distance between the claim that we stand for democracy and freedom throughout the world and what the U.S. actually does when that principle is stacked up against another interest: controlling the spigot of the world's oil supply. In 1953 the U.S. toppled Iran's popular prime minister, Mohammed Mossadegh, putting the Shah of Iran firmly in control. By 1979 our support of the Shah had turned most Iranians into bitter enemies of the United States. They chased him out of power and installed a fundamentalist Muslim regime that bedevils us to this day.
The reason the U.S. toppled the Mossadegh regime boils down to one word, the same word that governs most of our policy in the region: oil. When Mossadegh became prime minister, Iran had one-quarter of the world's proven oil reserves. And yet his country received more income from the sale of its carpets abroad than from its petroleum. The British Empire held a controlling interest in the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), and they were not shy about exerting that control.
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Israel doesn't belong to the Middle Eastern "honor-shame" club. We don't have to prove anything.

You forget that Israel has been accused several times in the past of operating on Iranian territory. Even if Israel doesn't retaliate with a similar show of force, everybody knows that Israel can do this and a lot more. Again, we don't have to prove anything.

 

What is the "honor-shame" club ? A funny one Pisa . Of course Israel can do a lot more .. exterminate another 10,000 Palestinian children and 10,000 more civilians .. as collective punishment the Iranian attack, same as was done for the Hamas attack. Any excuse will suffice for Ethnic Cleansing but, I am thinking the IDF will not do a lot more Ethnic Cleansing .. Global Opinion will not allow it .. even the USA unable to sustain due to the internal political cost.

Iran can do more as well .. This was just a sortie. What an amazing test though .. showcasing capabilities .. Iran is now a force to be reckoned with .. something which was not the case in the past .. able to penetrate the "Iron Dome" at will .. target anything it likes .. Even with a 5 hour heads up .. with USA and Britain shooting down most of the stuff before reaching Israeli territory.

Was extreme restraint on the part of Iran .. civilized behavior in the face of the most extreme barbarity ... who does this -- taking out diplomats of a foreign enemy state in an embassy ,,,, OH I know the answer to this one . Benghazi .. "The Islamic State" IS - Israel has found the level of Terrorist State .. happy happy Joy .. isn't that swell .. something to be proud of .. does that not qualify for the "Honor-Shame" club ?

As the Irish - delegation at the UN Say .. "The Hague too good for Bibi"

 

Yesterday was not such a "wonderful", unexpected holiday" for many Palestinians who couldn't go to work due to your government's useless show of force .. no Pizza and ice cream for those in the Gaza concentration camp .. not much laughing- not much fun happening .. guessing they are torn between contempt and gratitude as well .. gratitude of course for any harm that comes Israel's way .. some push back against the atrocity and crimes against humanity .. and a never ending supply of contempt for the foreign occupier that make the brown shirts look like light weights.

Just another "fun-filled day" at the neighbor next door to the Kibbutz .. !

 

Glad you're thinking of those hostages that you pretend to care about

 

Here's some background info that a lot of Americans aren't aware of. People in Iran and the rest of the Middle East are aware of it. It explains their hostility towards Israel. Religion has very little to do with it.

The Zionist Story (2009) - by Ronen Berelovich
https://rumble.com/v4lrf1n-the-zionist-story-2009-by-ronen-berelovich.html

Benjamin Freedmans 1961 Speech At The Willard Hotel ( Complete)( 1)
https://archive.org/details/benjamin-freedmans-1961-speech-at-the-willard-hotel-complete-1

 

Oh you poor poor thing....all you did is support murder, rapes and mutilations how will you ever survive Rafah.....
You will remember Oct 7th as we will, that's what matters.
And you are no closer to destroying Israel as you ever was.

 

go for it mate....sure there's all sorts of myths and hyperbole surrounding these "hypersonic" missiles doohdad thingies .....but these...nah...they aren't just simple MRBMs....same as all the Russian claims about their wunderwaffen Kinsal...
They are making good progress but they aren't there yet despite the mad mullah's media machine claiming otherwise.

 

They had plenty of laughs Oct 7th - Oct 14th ~
BTW....since you and others like you been crying about the inhuman condition in Gaza for...what? 15 years ? do you find any differences between then and now? because back then according to the terror supporters the Gazans simply couldn't live on, they were packed, starving, hopeless, they just had to kill to survive.
And look now, 6 months on 50% less ground, REAL occupation, REAL total war - just as you wished it remember ? you wanted to supply them with weapons so they could fight, here's the fight and what do you do ? whine just like before.....

 

You have no idea

 

Gaza is on our mind not Iran, Lebanon too
We'll clip your tentacles first.

 

Interesting post. Completely off, but interesting topic to bring up. Are you familiar with the actual events which led up to US policy at the time. Hint: it had nothing to do with oil necessarily (though anything Iran has some relation to oil). The point is, how did having Mossadegh or the Shah in power benefit the US or Britain? Understand, the US government was in favor of and was instrumental in supporting Mossadegh initially. It really is a fascinating series of events.

 

Who supports murder, rapes and mutilations in Rafah ? --- Don't pin that moniker on me G .. can keep that one all to yourself ... along with your self destruction of Israel comments. Just because folks call out the terror attack on Oct 7 .. don't mean they shouldn't call out the collective punishment - crimes against humanity .. and war crimes going on in the Gaza concentration Camp .. or the crimes of the Warsaw Ghetto.

Irish Delegation to the UN say "The Hague to good for Bibi" .. getting rid of that Scum bucket .. and the rest of those Likud war criminals .. best thing that could happen to Israel ..