RFK paying more attention than Trump or Biden

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    RFK understands the real reason we cant have nice things.

    BlackRock owns the processed food companies that are poisoning us, and they own the pharmaceutical companies that are making $4.3 trillion a year…treating the chronic disease that’s being caused by BlackRock’s other group of companies."
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    Shouldn’t we talk about the fact that we have 1,000 ingredients in our foods that are illegal in other countries?”
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    BlackRock owns all the military contractors—General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman, Boeing, Lockheed, etc—that are destroying all the ports and bridges and schools and roads in Ukraine, and they also have the contracts for rebuilding Ukraine.”
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    Haliburton, anyone?
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    “The issues that would challenge their hegemony over our democracy are issues that are never talked about. By the way, [the media] are all ultimately owned by BlackRock, too.”

    “Of course, they want to make sure that Republicans and Democrats never get together on anything,”

    In case you didnt know, Blackrock is one of the worlds largest investment firms. You invest in Blackrock, it buys stocks of profitable companies, sends you back some of the profit. And in doing so, it gains controlling stock leverage in those companies and 'owns' enough of them to be a shotcaller. Do that with enough companies, and its hard to not end up with an effective monopoly.

    Now, lets not mistake ourselves by thinking Blackrock is the only one. Its just the best and most well known example of how corporatism overpowers democracy. Theres lots of investment firms, and their biggest investors are often the same relatively small number of wealthy elites.

    Trump is an entertaining speed bump to globalism, but RFK understands the true source of the problems.

    Full interview:
    https://www.infowars.com/posts/watc...tical-parties-big-pharma-military-industries/
     
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    Who says that we can't have nice things? Anyone has the opportunity to buy organic foods and use them to prepare fresh meals.

    The reality is that capitalism has pushed us into the two-income household model, in which both earners are 24/7 in the rat race, just to live paycheck to paycheck. Is it a wonder that many people use the convenience of fast food and pre-packaged, processed meals to save some time?

    We need to come back to REAL priorities. The current priority in our consumerism society is to spend tons of money on tons of stuff we don't need, instead of using the better principle of people first, money second, things last (I know, I know, it's from Suze Orman, but it is still a good principle). People should WANT to prioritize healthier life styles. Instead, the prioritize convenience. Just wait until we get self-driving cars, this will further accelerate the sedentary lifestyle, obesity epidemic.

    One can finger point at governments and corporations, the truth is they just give people what they want. That's the free market for you, and if you criticize it, you are labeled a socialist.
     
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    @Quantum Nerd please tell us how socialism will magically fix these problems? Where does this magical money come from without capitalism?
    @modernpaladin I think it really sucks that Biden and Trump don't touch on this issue. Personally its a huge issue for me to have to pay 2 to 3x as much to buy stuff WITHOUT all the extra cancer they pump into it
     
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    Where in my post did I say that socialism would fix it? I didn't.

    Of course, we all know who would be the first to cry if government would decide to expand the FDA and EPA, to regulate harmful chemicals in processed foods and plasticizers and microplastics in the water, and, therefore, food chain. In fact, there is a certain population in the US who would want to get rid of those government agencies, providing at least some protection, once and for all. And we all know who those people vote for.
     
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    You didn't, but you blamed Capitalism so I just assumed it was pro-socialism. My bad!
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By 'nice things' I was referring to things like affordable healthcare and peace, not what crap you can buy. Cant have affordable healthcare and peace when the sick profits and war profits have regulatory capture over the insitutions of govt.
     
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    I think the truth is no matter what system of government or market you have, some are going to thrive while others fail.

    The problem we often find ourselves in as humans is we don't like to compromise and try to rigidly stay in a system because it prospered at some point. We have to be flexible and make adjustments to thrive. Businesses often do better than government because of said flex.

    Some examples -

    1. Republicans on social safety nets for poor
    2. Democrats on immigration
    3. Both Republicans and Democrats on guns
    4. Both on free speech
    5. Both on health care

    Etc... the rigid nature of Both parties has created the two party state and we all know if something is too rigid it eventually breaks.... the breaks we experience are the major party flips that can take place in an election cycle. For example, Democrats being pro war now and Republicans being anti war.
     
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    All of these are publicly traded companies. So it is easy to check this statement to verify if BlackRock has enough shares to have a controlling interest. As of the latest proxy statements by each, BlackRock controls:

    General Dynamics - 5.3%
    Northrop Grumman - 6.4%
    Boeing - 6.0%
    Lockhead - 7.4%

    So this proves... what exactly? That they are large shareholders? They're not even the largest shareholder for any of these companies.

    General Dynamics has 4 companies with higher % ownership, with Longview Asset Management having the most at 10.2%.
    Northrop Grumman has 3 companies with higher % ownership, with State Street Corporation having the most at 9.4%.
    Boeing the Vanguard Group has a higher % ownership, at 8.0%.
    Lockhead has 2 companies with a higher % ownership, with State Street Corporation having the most at 14.9%.

    While technically the statement is correct in that "BlackRock owns (shares in) all the military contractors", that is a world of a difference in connotation. It sounds an awful lot like simple scapegoating to try and come up with easy answers for complex problems.

    Why are oil prices high? Evil greedy oil companies.
    Why is there so much "fake news"? Evil greedy social media companies.
    Why is there war? Evil greedy military industrial complex companies.
     

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