Half of French youth ready to fight in Ukraine to defend France's interests, study finds

Ukraine is struggling with international help drying up, especially from US. With Trump in WH it a loss would be almost certain, but it seems Europeans are willing to put boots on the ground if needed.

Half of French youth ready to fight in Ukraine to defend France's interests, study finds
https://www.yahoo.com/news/half-french-youth-ready-fight-065728620.html
Half of the French youth would be willing to enlist in the military and fight on the territory of Ukraine if it were necessary to defend France's interests.

Source: Le Parisien, citing the results of a study conducted by the Institute for Strategic Research (IRSEM) and the Directorate-General for International Relations and Strategy (DGRIS), as reported by European Pravda

IRSEM and DGRIS are entities within the French Defence Ministry structure. The study’s results were published on 12 April, and the data was collected many months before.


The research was led by Anne Muxel who analysed a series of surveys, including a questionnaire conducted by Ipsos among 2,300 French people aged 18-25 in the summer of 2023.

 

Also, Latvia has introduced a law to make military service mandatory for all males.

Latvia: New Law Introduces Compulsory Military Service Starting in January 2024
https://www.loc.gov/item/global-leg...ry-military-service-starting-in-january-2024/
On April 19, 2023, Law No. 75 on the State Defense Service entered into force in the Republic of Latvia. This law, which was signed by Latvian President Egils Levits on April 18, 2023, introduces compulsory military service, regulates the process of national conscription for males, and establishes the rules for voluntary service by female Latvian nationals.

Under this law, military service becomes mandatory for male citizens from January 1, 2024. (Law No. 75, Transitional Provisions, para 4.)

 

??? How so?

 

He would kill aid to Ukraine in order to have Russia win the war.

 

Baseless speculation on your part.

 

I wish I could live in the world where I could sit back and watch how French troops do against Russians in Ukraine without worrying about my own country being forced into it, but we live in a world of entangling alliances that insure that we could be at war at any time for no good reason.

 

It's not speculation. He has made it clear that he thinks Ukraine is part of Russia, and the aid should ne cut, and he has also said he would probably not honor NATO treaty. Putin can't wait to see him back in the WH

The only entangling alliance is with NATO, and that applies only of NATO member is attacked, not if a NATO member attacks someone else. Besides, its doubtful Trump would honor the treaty even if a member was attacked.

 

Trump? He's not President.

So if France sends troops into Ukraine, are you telling me that they cannot make an Article 5 request for assistance?

 

He will be if he wins. But ok, - I didn't know you expect Biden to win again

They can make any request they want, but the Article does not mandate anyone to participate if France initiates the fighting. Same was in Vietnam and Iraq as well.

 

I've taken for granted that Trump's chances, while not zero, are pretty low.

There were no NATO allies being attacked in Vietnam and Iraq. So I guess your view if that if France jumps into the war, it has zero effect on us. I hope you're right.

 

So, we should spend billions so Ukraine can lose the war, anyway?

 

Typical.

So, __________________________________________? (<== insert made-up claim with a question mark in the end)

 

What claim did I make up?

 

Yes, if France sends in troops without being attacked first, then they are on their own. The other members will probably support voluntarily by sharing intel and equipment, but no one would mandated to to anything.

You: "So, we should spend billions so Ukraine can lose the war, anyway?". It's a claim, not a question.

 

Look, this topic is just a marketing ploy for the arms industry. Isn't it obvious?

There are a lot of bots on social media that promote this stuff, particularly Facebook.

 

Well, this is not based on a Facebook post

Translated from French
A survey carried out in the summer of 2023

“Renewed patriotism”: 57% of young French people surveyed ready to enlist under the flags “in the event of war”
https://www.leparisien.fr/societe/r...rre-12-04-2024-35ZK3VMTFFBJPKSWOQ433R675Y.php
The study by IRSEM (Strategic Research Institute of the Military School) and DGRIS (Directorate General of International Relations and Strategy) was carried out between June and December 2023 by Anne Muxel, research director at CNRS and deputy director of the CEVIPOF political research center.

It analyzes a series of surveys, including one conducted online by the Ipsos institute, with a sample of 2,301 people representative of French youth aged 18 to 25.

Among the striking figures of this sociological study, the first on the subject since the start of the Russian invasion in Ukraine on February 24, 2022 , one in two young people between 18 and 25 say they are ready to commit to France in Ukraine .