Putting a face on systemic racism.

‘These people’ ?

You are doing it too. Like there are Americans and ‘the rest’ the ‘these people’.
You’re likely to be in for a surprise when you discover that ‘these people’ are many people, the vast majority of whom have no interest in living in the United States.

 

No, I won't be in for any kind of surprise. I'm only surprised that after two posts, you never could grasp my point.

 

I did not initially post on this thread in response to any particular post by you or anybody else. It was a point made by me about imprecise terms used. It is you who responded but didn’t make a point but doubled down with more American imprecision.

 

In 1972, 52 yrs ago. Got anything recent?

 

The article is behind a paywall. What is the link to the actual study?

 

Does the last election work for you?

 

And?

 

For a country whose wealth was built on racism in terms of slavery and racial genocide it is no surprise that it is a place riddled with racism.
The honest Americans declare that aboriginal North Americans were conquered and so what, and black people were oppressed by power to be treated like animals and so what?
The thing is that there are the descendants of people who now want revenge, or descendants of people who want to keep their boots on the neck of others, hardly surprising.
What is harder to stomach is the hypocrisy of so many Americans who say they are Christian and follow the god of Love, and yet are blind to living in a land full of hate.
American philosophy seems to simply be might is right, and morality is irrelevant and inconvenient.

 

Do you think it's okay for an old white man to tell black people if they're really black or not based on who they vote for?

 

No, I thought I was doing a good deed by explaining to you why an American would use the term "Asian" differently than a Brit would, and your response was that the world hates America. OK, I've done my best with you.

 

No but I pretty much ignore politicians rhetoric, its what they do that counts.

 

Like making sure historically black colleges get funding?

 

That would a point in favor.

 

Guess who did that? And guess who didn't?

 

It used to be real. Blacks had it rough because the left wouldn't let them TRULY have freedom and came out with all of those segregation laws. (this is why you don't have this crap in the UK, when they ended it, they didn't have THE LEFT to keep the brothas down)
Systemic Racism was INVENTED by the left so it makes a lot of sense that they want to assign a "face" to it (a face that isn't blue!)

 

Well of course its trump, you guys are incapable of saying anything positive about Biden no matter how small.

 

Hey, don't blame us for the Asian thing, that's on our liberal friends. I got slammed on this board for being more specific by calling them Orientals and was told the proper term is Asian. We could call the Orientals something that might not be offense to the left, how does Pacific Rimmers sound to you? Or maybe we can just refer to them as yellow people in the same manner we describe whites, blacks and browns.

 

I don’t believe any of you get it. If you ditch ‘oriental’ for ‘Asian’ you’re simply changing one catch all term for an even worse, or an equally imprecise term.
What is wrong with calling Japanese Japanese, or Turks Turks or Indians Indians and so on rather than trying to homogenise such a vast swathe of people?

 

Hey, it wasn't my idea to call them Asians, that was your side who did that. Besides, in all honesty, I can't tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese people, and I know they HATE to be asked where they're from, the left says that's racist. So how do I know what to call them?

 

You take the trouble to find out, like show a bit of respect.
It isn’t difficult.
My wife is from Beijing and wouldn’t worry one bit if asked where she is from.
Your use of the word ‘they’ is telling.

 

Gee, why ever could that be?

On Monday, they released the names of the companies. On average, they found, employers contacted the presumed white applicants 9.5 percent more often than the presumed Black applicants.

 

It's not difficult to understand. Systemic racism is any racial preference or deference that is codified into a system.

For instance, if a bank's loan approval procedure requires that the race of the applicant must be given weight, then that is systemic racism. On the other hand, if an individual loan officer at the bank approves or denies applicants based on his own prejudices, then that is NOT systemic racism.

Essentially, the racial component must be codified into a system for it to be systemic, because that's what "systemic" means.

 

Exactly... Well said! This happens when the "weight" you mention is applied negatively against people whose ethnicity would normally have a negative impact if the application were face to face. And the bank officer who ends up denying the loan might not even be a racist. They could be a regular joe who might even be him/herself black. But the racism is already baked INTO the system that statistically more black people default on their loans. To address the problem, the question to be asked is why. A white supremacist will fabricate some sort of excuse based on "genetics". A true analyst will understand that our past history of slavery and Jim Crowe has created a condition in which more black people struggle to get a job (as the OP illustrates), or to set up a business, or to get admitted at a University. THOSE are some of the "root causes". So we MUST compensate for a problem created by our white ancestors by addressing causes as close to the root as is humanly possible.

 

Well, that isn't true. When the Biden administration stood w/ Israel regardless of the Jew/Israel haters on the left--many on this board appreciated that. The problem with Biden....is that he really isn't all there. I don't think anyone perceives he is "calling the shots". So, true, its hard to be positive about the man himself.

 

IYO, does it matter if racism is systemic in a de facto rather than de jure sense? Cuz the affect is the same.