MPs to vote on smoking ban for those born after 2009

This is surprising. Of course they its the old liberal "think about our precious children" nanny state line, which is now parroted to no end by DeSantis et al. So, basically those who are now 15, and anyone younger + future generations will be banned from smoking tobacco. In UKs case it makes somewhat more sense because the smoking related illnesses are treated on taxpayer dime in UK.

MPs to vote on smoking ban for those born after 2009
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68816566

Plans to stop young people born since 2009 ever smoking are being debated and will be voted on later.

Rishi Sunak's bill aims to create the UK's first smoke-free generation in a major public health intervention.

The Tobacco and Vapes Bill would ensure anyone turning 15 from this year would be banned from buying cigarettes, and also aims to make vapes less appealing to children.

A number of Tory MPs have told the BBC they won't back the bill.

The BBC understands that Business and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch is considering voting against the plans.

Conservative MPs will get a free vote on it so they won't be ordered to vote with the government, but the bill is likely to pass as it has Labour support.

 

I am going to go along with that kind of smoking ban. I don't people should smoke at all because of the nicotine poisoning that' s been going on for many many years. There are those that would saw that rights are being taken away of smokers, I say that smokier are taking my rights away from breathing clean air and having or should I say making non-smokers breathe secondhand smoke which is dangerous than smoking itself. I think all smoking should be banned. I have a message for you younger people out there: Don't smoke at all. It's not worth it. PERIOD.

 

It's all about control.

 

What we see here is the typical Leftist school of thought: you don't like smoking, so you think the government should ban people from smoking.

 

Nothing the government could do would cause more young people to start smoking, than making it forbidden and illegal.

Nothing will profit the makers of Tobacco products more than making their product irresistible because it is taboo and also making it contraband profitable.

Beware the law of unintended consequences.

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It's all about equity instead of equality.

 

Not sure what a smoking ban has anything to do with either equity or equality. Its about authoritarianism.

It probably WILL decrease smoking, - I just don't like government bans in general.

Over 40% of Americans smoked in the 60s, and now its down to 10%, and obesity has overtaken smoking as the killer of Americans

 

That too. Treating one group of people differently than another group is equity. The smoking ban doesn't include everybody which would represent equality if it did.

 

Hard to make up for the lost 10 billion pounds of tax revenue if they ban it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...n/tobacco-statistics-commentary-april-2023--2

 

Yay, banning more plants. What could go wrong?

Or are they not banning the growing of tobacco, but only the smoking of it? Cuz that's sure to work...

Legalize it, tax it, use some of the taxes to educate people about its risks. Do this for ALL things. If adults want to take an educated risk, well, THATS ****ing FREEDOM.

Banning **** is cringe control freak bullshit. Authoritarians flexing their bureaucracy. They should be laughed at and ridiculed and fired, and subjected to all forms of nonviolent discomfort until they stop doing it and leave people the hell alone.

 

That's why the Democrats are so hot under the collar to control the healthcare system. When they do, they can declare just about anything a "public health risk" and regulate it to any extent they want.

Look how States with communist healthcare did during COVID: if you don't get vaccinated and you get infected, you lose your healthcare privileges.

 

This use of collectivized healthcare is the only reason so many of the financial and political elites support collectivizing it.

 

What silliness. It is the liberals that support the "nanny state". This vote in UK and anything similar in the US.

 

It takes an absolutley astounding level of self prescribed authority to take the positions you do.

How about you live your life and stop worrying about how others live theirs?

 

Of course liberals are okay with controlling someone’s choices under the idea of a universal Healthcare System. This is one of the reasons I oppose it. It won’t stop at cigarettes. In a world of growing drug acceptance and usage we now all the sudden want to ban smoking tobacco. Just as Biden’s plans to ban menthol cigarettes is equally as stupid and racist.

 

Are you one of those that think smoking should a privilege? What about those that don't like breathing secondhand smoke? it kills.

 

The driving force behind this is the UK Conservative Party.

 

They aren’t conservative in American terms

 

Who the hell smokes inside anymore? Is that even legal in any state?

You are free to not be around people that are smoking.

 

Sort of an irony that the left now wants to ban smoking tobacco.

 

Nothing wrong with that.

 

You're right, that is my choice.

 

He might of had an argument about second hand smoke 30-40 years ago but where one can smoke today is restricted to such an extent that the argument doesnt hold water today.
Was surprised on a trip to Colorado recently. Could spark up a doobie in the hotel room while cigarettes were strictly prohibited.

 

I don’t support government banning smoking, but I do support health insurance companies being able to deny paying for smoking related conditions.

 

....that's true but it was what's called a "free vote" which means it wasn't a party issue....but that said....."Conservative" in the UK is basically a Blairite socialism...we don't actually have what I would term traditional Thatcherite Conservatism anymore.

...not quite it's....well.... it's do gooding....it's the nanny state.....the issue is more that we have a health system which is on the verge of financial collapse...I would argue it's already f**ked beyond reality but that's just me ....anyway, if we can legislate away smokers and fat arsed people then we can save money on dead people walking as it were. Coversely tobacco is taxed to the nostrils for example a pack of faggs costs the equivalent of USD16-17.00 something like that. So it's a two pronged attack if you like.