Is this the 1st administration in history to be OK with chants of "DEATH TO AMERICA"?

Yes I am,.. and the courts may be looking at issue soon. To allow one and to deny the other will not help the Trump case. I am sorry you are incapable of grasping that, it is such a simple point.

 

I don't think the left got that memo! I do agree with that statement though. Nice! That's the LOGIC I was looking for. I'm happy you now see that SELECTIVE "free" speech is bad. this is whats gonna help Trump WIN.

 

The difference between you and I is that I see it on both sides and you only see it on one.

 

Oh Bribed Joe's fine with it. You see, Bribed Joe's Uncle was eaten by cannibals and that's why Biden doesn't like Trump.

Biden can explain: Joe Biden suggests his uncle was eaten by ‘CANNIBALS’ after his plane was shot down over Papua New Guinea during World War Two.

'The president said there were ‘a lot of cannibals at the time’ in the area where his uncle Ambrose J. Finnegan’s plane crashed in the 1940s – and his remains were never located.'

Joe's lying, again.

'However, Biden’s account was inconsistent with Pentagon records which showed the plane was not ‘shot down’ as he said. According to his own Defense Department it was a ‘courier’ flight that suffered engine failure and ditched in the ocean off Papua New Guinea on May 14, 1944. His uncle was a passenger rather than the pilot.'

So yeah, Bribed Joe is working to get the "Death To America" vote and as they settle for him, he's crept up in the polls on the leading Trump.

“What’s Eating Joe?” “You can see in these videos how feeble Biden is. He doesn’t make sense on even the most basic points. For example, he says that his uncles all went down to the recruiting station and volunteered the day after D-Day. Which would have been a little late. In fact, Joe’s uncle’s plane crashed a month before D-Day. No doubt Biden meant to refer to Pearl Harbor. But he can hardly get through a sentence without descending into incoherence.”

 

We've fallen a long way under Biden.

 

Some of them are breaking laws, not for what they say but for where they say it and their activities there. It is illegal everywhere to interfere with street and road traffic, for instance. I don't really have a problem with these people. I see them as pathetic children. I have a problem with those who support them. I also have a problem with a government that won't speak out against it. Government also has freedom of speech.

 

I don't believe you. I don't believe you ever cared about a politician saying the term "fight like hell", but since its been said SO MANY TIMES I'm assuming you have many, many posts condemning that phrase PRE-TRUMP
Shouldn't take you more than a few minutes
ON YOUR MARK........................GET SET.........................GO!!!!

 

Under existing law, I think it definitely falls under incitement to violence in general and this in particular:

• Advocating Overthrow of Government (18 U.S.C. § 2385): It is a federal crime to advocate, abet, advise, or teach the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing the government of the United States by force or violence, or to publish or circulate printed material advocating the overthrow of government

https://www.thefederalcriminalattor... says, “Whoever,,of holding any U.S. office.”


I don’t know how chanting “death to America” is not an intentional and specific advocation of the overthrow of our government and call for violence to any who oppose. If you’d like to explain it, I’m all ears.

 

You know what it sounds like?
Wait for it
ITS AN INSURRECTION!!!!!!

 

If that's the case, we also have to lock up a good chunk of right wingers. Seems like a very, very low and dangerous bar you are recommending.

 

Then arrest them for the laws that they did break. I've got no problem with that. But what they said (at least as has been reported here) isn't illegal.

 

The low bar was already set when republicans got treated like terrorists just for an itty bitty protest
You see that bed they made? TIME TO SLEEP IN IT
Karma sucks...don't it??

 

Insurrection requires more than words.

 

Are you talking about the violent offenders who were justifiably arrested? Those "itty bitty protesters"? And, yes, if any of these people were trespassing and disrupting an official proceeding, I support arresting them for it. It's funny that you find so much in common with these people, though. Worrisome, but still funny.

 

I'm impressed we still live in a country where people can do that. Free speech lives. Nice to have some good news for a change.

Death to America isn't a specific threat. It's just a hateful statement against the US government or perhaps other aspects of the US as well. It's not a call to violent action because it's ambiguous if not taken literally, and quite literally impossible without a superpower level of nuclear weapons to execute literally. It doesn't tell people who and how to target. It's not like saying "death to juror #2" because that's a specific person and a specific outcome.

 

I would never partake in a protest (but thanks for taking liberties on assuming what I would do).
Its obstructive, annoying, a waste of time and I work too much to have time to go block other people from getting to their jobs.
I kind of hate protesters, all of them, but that doesn't matter, what matters is those protestors got dragged through the mud worse than terrorists do and NOTHING is done about people threatening death to the country. It seems your idea of punishing unruly protestors is one sided. Why am I not surprised?

 

The country isn't a biological entity. It can't actually die. And wishing for it to do so, while idiotic and disgusting, isn't a crime. And it seems you have failed to read. My position on protestors is hardly "one-sided." But why am I surprised that this goes over your head?

 

I disagree (although i do agree it isn't specific), i strongly disagree it isn't a threat. What about their death to israel chants, IN AMERICA and then Jews get jumped, beat up and killed over it. (most of them are too scared to even attend their college classes). I think that IS dangerous. I also still think its free speech
I'm ok with whatever direction it goes but it must EQUALLY apply, and that isn't what happens here anymore.
Need examples?
sure
-FBI persecution of pro-lifers
-Classified docs for me but not for thee
-Protests for me but not for thee (OUR VP even raised money to bail out violent BLMr's but is totally on board with ruining J6'rs lives forever)
That's about 0.4% of the list.
lots more where that came from but lets hear your spin on it
Ready................GO!!!!

 

What words would be a higher bar for you than the death of this country? It’s not like the language is vague. Either they’re calling for the destruction of government or they’re calling for the death of all Americans who oppose them…or both. There is literally no other way to interpret it and either way it shouldn’t be free speech any more than libel or defamation is which is a much lower bar.

how about we take it down just one level and you go out there and chant “death to Biden”. See what happens to you.

 

Again. Countries are not biological entities. They can't actually be murdered. I've provided more specific examples which you, conveniently, are unwilling or unable to discuss. "Death to Biden" or "Death to Trump" could actually be specific threats. "Death to America" is not. Your "bar" is insane. Threatening a specific person is not taking it DOWN a level. It is taking it UP a level. Do I seriously have to explain this to an adult?

 

Votes are not a biological entity. You cannot "fight like hell" against them. We can all play these games too. Its not that hard. I love games!

 

Cool so explain what “death to America” is calling for.

 

Apparently so, because you are playing nonsensical games instead of actually addressing what I said. Would you like to talk about leprechauns next? How about Sasquatch? I guess we can do that, but I'll be back here waiting at the topical stuff when you muster the courage to join me.

 

It's probably calling for the end of the country. Which isn't illegal to say. What you can't understand (or at least pretend not to understand) is that the more SPECIFIC a threat is, the more serious it is. You are trying to make it the opposite.

 

You’re saying “Death to America” is as difficult to nail down its meaning as Sasquatch is to find. Lol! Kudos, your mental gymnastics to defend America haters is insane, definitely a 10/10 score on the absurdity rating.

you must have some skin in the game. Just how much do you love these America haters exactly? Are you one of the chanters? Is that how you know it means something other than Americas destruction?