Is this the 1st administration in history to be OK with chants of "DEATH TO AMERICA"?

Wow you don’t associate “End of Country” with “overthrow of government”. If I might borrow your choice of words for a second, do I really have to explain this to an adult??

 

Buddy, I've called the speech idiotic, but I don't share your hatred for the 1st Amendment. I'm sorry you find this to be a difficult concept. I've yet to meet anyone with and above middle school education who can't grasp this. At least until today.

 

Wishing for the government to be overthrown isn't illegal or criminal. Welcome to America, where the 1st Amendment exists despite your seething hatred for it.

 

Its only "overthrow of the government" if you say the words "fight like hell" and if you are protesting while republican
"Death to america?" perfectly acceptable. not nearly as dangerous as "peaceful and patriotically" and "fight like hell".

 

It sounds like your hatred for the 1st Amendment is as strong as your hatred for reading what people actually wrote.

 

The 1st is not an absolute and supporting the enforcement of speech that is not protected does not a 1st hater make. But nice try!

Unfortunately there are many posters defending the chanters for Americas death, you are hardly the first. And like all of them, they have nothing except BS to back their false claims of 1st amendment being an absolute right and “death to America is just so difficult to grasp the meaning of…”.

 

Yes it is. It is a federal crime to advocate for it. Maybe try reading harder

 

I'm sorry that you can't conceive of objecting to speech without resorting to fascism.

 

No, it isn't. Not without a specific threat. You are literally claiming it is a crime to have the philosophical position of anarchism. I'm glad others don't share this fascist position and I'm glad our own government does not outlaw thoughtcrimes in this way.

 

it sounds like you are trying to derail the fact that you made a huge deal over "fight like hell" and want to downplay "death to america" and now want to make it about my supposed "hatred" to derail the fact you got called out on what appears to be a massive double standard
That's cool!
Thanks for sharing

 

So enforcing law is fascism. Classic leftist viewpoint. Think I haven’t heard that before?

This is very fun watching someone with no real argument legal or moral to allow for chanting of Death to America fall back on every pathetic trope he can drum out of his ass

 

I didn't make a "huge deal" out of "fight like hell," and it is pathetic that you are so desperate to hide from the topic that you have to resort to that. Man up and actually talk about the topic. This is pathetic and outright dishonest.

 

Resorting to facism = someone having different views then you?
That in itself, is fascist (just thought I'd point that out to you)
You people should sit back and read your own posts from time to time, you might learn some valuable lessons

 

You didn’t read at all. I said to read harder. Now go back and actually do it. The fed statute is Crystal clear and doesn’t need a memo after “I want to overthrow government” with an added “no really I mean it I’m totally going to try”.

 

Saying or feeling "Death to America" is not against the law. I'm sorry that you think only leftists value the 1st Amendment. That's very telling. And the fact that you had to lie about me calling it "moral" is absolutely insane. I said it was legal. I never said it was moral and I criticized it. I'm sorry that you clearly want to outlaw all speech that you disagree with.

 

You are being dishonest. I'm calling the OUTLAWING of speech you don't like fascism. Try to read. It isn't hard. I can use shorter sentences if necessary. YOU are the one calling for the outlawing of views you dislike.

This is a position that can be solved with literacy. Give it a try.

I understand you prefer strawmen. Have fun with that. When you feel like manning up and being honest, I'll be around.

 

Too late to walk out on that but its cool. When there are 5+ posts from the same person all trying to lesson and down play "Death to america" you can't pretend it didn't happen!
Also, please don't tell me to "man up", i find such toxic masculinity to be highly offensive
Thank you

 

Except it’s not legal. And I’m sorry you get so mad defending POS people spouting unprotected speech, I’d be very mad too if I was politically compelled to defend such trash too while hiding behind a ridiculous absolutist view of the 1st

 

It is not illegal to wish for the government to be overthrown. I'm sorry this confounds you. If this were illegal, a good chunk of the conservatives in the south would have been shipped off to a prison a loooooong time ago.

 

It is absolutely legal. Actually planning for it is not. Specific threats are not. You are literally claiming it is crime to be a philosophical anarchist. I'm glad we have not resorted to that level of fascism.

 

• Advocating Overthrow of Government (18 U.S.C. § 2385): It is a federal crime to advocate, abet, advise, or teach the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing the government of the United States by force or violence, or to publish or circulate printed material advocating the overthrow ofgovernment

Now actually read it this time. And comprehending would be helpful too

 

Already debunked…again…in last post. Hilarious though to see you thinking libel, defamation, and chanting “death to Biden” are all protected speech

 

Anyone who writes a book advocating for philosophical anarchism should be jailed. I want to hear you say it. This is insane. Your are JUST as anti-american as these people are, if not far more so.

 

Believing in a different form or even no government is different than advocacy for a governments overthrow. I hope you can figure out the distinction because it’s an important one.

“I believe in anarchy” is different than saying “I believe in anarchy and the US government needs to burn”. The former is simply a belief. The latter is specific advocacy for the overthrow of government and thus violates just as “death to America” does.

So to answer your question, yes, If such an author dovetailed his belief with calling for the overthrow of government then yes, he should be brought up on all relevant charges

 

The latter is not illegal. Never has been. Never will be. "The Democrat party needs to die" isn't even illegal to say, and that's more specific. Calls for an overthrow are only illegal if they are actually specific. Just musing about how you'd like for it to happen in some general way is not illegal.