What is the primary reason you support Biden?

Did you not hear during campaign ( 2020) that Biden wanted to leave Afghanistan or all the things he wanted to do to combat climate change? Now all of a sudden Biden Climate policy and Afghanistan policy became unacceptable to you?

 

I voted against Trump in 2016 and 2020.

 

I'm waiting for a candidate who is not unfit.

 

Like What??? I'm not trying to hound you per say but I am curious. They have vastly different--and often opposite policies--regarding the environment, the border, Iran. Both seem support Israel. What policies make them equally repulsive?

 

Biden campaigned as a unifier.

 

Trump would destroy NATO and let Putin run wild.
Biden would destroy our economy in the name of climate madness.
Both joined in the dishonor of abandoning Afghanistan.

 

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarity.

 

I am a fan of this forum, all the conservatives here are "uber rich" and belong to "Top one-percent". This is even more astonishing, they all had humble beginnings, government didn't help them, they had lemonade stand when they were 9 years old, and now they have 3-4 or sometimes 25 world class business and today they are uber rich. I am pleased that a middle class, hard-working guy like me can have a conversation with all these uber rich people. What a country we live in that a middle-class hard-working man like me can tell the "uber rich", "you are full of sh$$."

 

I have no use whatsoever for Margorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz and the rest of the self destructive extreme right. They are the "Republican squad," and they are far worse that useless. They are reason why I will not give a dime to the Republican Congressional campaign committee because the money will got to bozos like them. One of the stupid ingrates even resigned from Congress. As hard as it is to get, that idiot didn't have the courage to finish out his term. Shame on him!

They are too damn stupid to see that the Republicans need to grow their majority in House, take the Senate and win the White House to get anywhere. Instead they have their heads up their butts claiming that we must force border legislation NOW. They too dumb to realize that the Senate and the Biden puppet will kill whatever they might dream of passing. They are too stupid to perceive that having another fight over the House speakership will only make the Republicans looks bad. I wished they would join your party and become part of "The Squad." They are just as bad as the "The Squad."

 

You can’t unify with people who want to climb up to capital hill and change the election result. You can’t unify with people who wants to use alternative EC so their guy who lost can be POTUS. You can’t unify with people who think Putin or Victor Orban is better leader then POTUS. You can’t unify with people who think FBI / CIA/ DOJ are enemy of the people. You can’t unify with people who claim the media is the enemy of the people. You can't bring together people who believe they have the right to spread COVID-19 virus in a restaurant filled with customers.

I want to get along with my neighbor, but that does not mean I tolerate him throwing his trash on my lawn.

 

Biden campaigned center but has governed left.

 

Biden governed left? All his major bills are bipartisan. The “inflation reeducation act’ which was not bipartisan orchestrated by Joe Manchin and Sinema. You think they are lefty?

Biggest complain from the left is that Biden is too moderate. The border bill Biden was willing to support had ZERO provision from DEMS side. it was basically one sided conservative Wishlist, yet MAGA didn’t like it.

 

I support Biden because I believe his policies best align with my view of democracy.

 

Thread winner

 

that's why his handlers chose him. Someone who patently represented Soros or Bloomberg or the Squad could never have won

 

There are more fundamental problems with your party then MTG and her likes. As I have posted data many time that younger generation, immigrants, African American, Hispanic , and other demography don’t subscribe to conservative ideology. But your party has no interest adjusting ideology/ policy which are acceptable today. The policy which worked in 1970 doesn’t work in 2024.

I will start with the easy one, that I know you agree with me. Pro-life movement. You know very well GOP must change this policy today or tomorrow, but they are not willing to change.

Let’s take another topic you and I disagree with. Climate change. GOP don’t have to adopt “ Green new Deal” . I fully agree with conservatives that the West can do everything, but if China/India/ Brazil is not on-board with climate change, nothing will change, in the meantime, the western economy will suffer. But the problem is , your party in 2024 doesn’t even want to admit that our climate is changing.

You and the GOP think forgiving student debt is socialism. But would you agree with me that 4 years collage degree became very extensive today? Would you agree that if America wants to compete in the 21st century, we must have an educated population without 400K student debt? I am not saying GOP needs to agree with DEMS , but at least recognize the problem and have conservative solution.

Since 2009 GOP were against Obama care. Gop tried to repeal Obama care 40+ times without an alternative.

Your party needs a makeover, not in the image of DEMS, but a makeover to join the rest in the 21st century. Unfortunately majority in your party thinks this is 1969.

 

so why don't you tell us what sort of government you want.

 

Not the government which says “ I want to be dictator on day one”.

 

that's not an answer.

 

Biden is far from left. Here's how you can tell the differences between the parties. Republicans THEMSELVES labeled their moderates RINOs and primaried them out of office, leaving only right-wing extremists. The Democratic party keeps their left-wing extremists like AOC and her 'squad' in a closet so the adults can govern. We simply don't see the extremists on the left taking over the party like we see the extremists on the right taking over.

 

The climate might be changing, but the Green New Deal is too radical. The fact remains that it's main purpose is impose big government socialism on the population which will enslave us all. Look who is biggest proponents are, AOC and her clan, who are openly socialists. They make no bones about that. As has been said before, the Green New Deal has less to do with the environment and more to do with imposing far left ideology. It is a "watermelon," green on the outside and red on the inside.

"Socialism" is not why I object it. You people on the far left keep harping about "fairness." Is it fair for people who have paid their loans to have pay for the skip chases who refuse to their debts, which they contracted to make? My nephew and his wife work for state government. Their don't make that much. They saved and sacrificed to pay off the loans they were lawfully committed to repay. After doing that they are now expected to pick up the tab for their deadbeat college mates who refuse to pay their lawful debts. Is that "fair" or should they accept the fact that they were fools to pay off their loans?

Why should people who never went to collage have to pay for those who did go? The line was you had to go to college to get a high paying job. Now that these people have their degrees, don't they have an obligation to pay for them? If they wasted their time and got a useless degree that can't get them a good job, that's their problem. Two of my nephews as a useless degrees. One couldn't get into graduate school because his entrance exam scores were too low. The other one has a degree that did not yield a job. Now they are working in unrelated fields to their college degrees

I know why you are so much in favor of the college loan bailouts. It's to support Biden's vote buying scheme, plain and simple.

And the politics of 1969 from the communist youth, who got their start protesting the Vietnam War, because they thought that the Viet Cong were cool, is the faction that runs your party.

 

Because he's been a successful president, and I want to see more of that.

He's not perfect, but he's good enough. My purpose is to get the best outcome for everyone, and the best possible realistic outcome results from electing Biden.

Trump being so awful is just the secondary reason.

Voting should be about doing good, and not about making yourself feel all warm and fuzzy. The "Oh, I'm just too morally pure to vote for the duopoly!" crowd needs to grow up. This isn't a game. People suffer and die based on your vote, so it's selfish to vote based on your own feelings.

 

I hope that the people who get their college loans forgiven get a 1099 from the government at the end of the year that they will have to add to their income tax return. It's only fair.

 

Conspiracy theories, good. That will really play well with mainstream America.

That's the Boomer gen, who are overwhelmingly Republicans. Their politics of selfishness and entitlement haven't changed.

 

No, it's the truth.

No, the radicals stayed in school, got the advanced degrees and stayed on in college to become professors. From there, the cancer has grown. You see it now in full bloom on college campuses where the pro-Palestinian and worse yet, pro-Hamas demonstrators are raising hell.

Most kids were apolitical. The Young Democrats and the Young Republicans were very small groups. The most active and vocal were the hard core left. They were able to get a lot of supporters for their demonstrations because of the Vietnam War.