Deranged Trump Goons Continue to be Arrested.

How about the denial of Russia helping Trump in 2016, you keep calling it a hoax, here's another reminder.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-operative-conviction-over-illegal-180109817.html
GOP operative’s conviction over illegal Russian contributions to Trump campaign upheld

 

Sore Loser Trump incited rebellion on 1/6, after perpetuating hateful rhetoric throughout his presidency. Since then he has continued to espouse hatred at his rallies. For example - joking about the hammer attack on Paul Pelosi.

 

Again with the BS notion that we live in a straight up Democracy where the mob rules and four or five states decide the Presidency. That's not how it works. And I stand by my assertion that she is equally hated by both the right and left.

 

Trump feeds the hatred of all his adversaries. I'll bet you hate Liz Cheaney and Adam Kinzinger. Nikki Haley - Trump called her "Birdbrain". Mitt Romney... The list goes on. MAGA hates who Trump tells MAGA to hate.

 

I like Kinzinger, presidential material.
If it were between Biden and K I would vote K.
But let's put Trump up there.......

 

And now they are setting themselves on fire, like was the case with the Florida man who did it in front of the courthouse at Trump trial. Successful indoctrination indeed

 

Trump will probably call him "a sucker and a loser".

 

If one added up everything that the left wants to classify as a "hateful" statement by Trump- is would be invisible next to the mountain of hate built by the democrats.
While we must be willing to recognize and address what is truly wrong- to manufacture and distort that to become a political is deeply immoral, and to distort the laws of the nation to destroy your political opponent should be seen as a treasonous act by anybody, regardless of their political choice.

I learned long ago that most people pick and chose truth and justify wrongdoing by lying to themselves. If that kind of people get in positions of power in a nation- it faces the greatest threat there is, because they can and will destroy it. That kind of people are in office today- and they will destroy your world as sure as that of the people you think are your enemies.

They lie to you- and the distort truth to fool you. You buy it by rejecting truth that doesn't fit what you want to believe. That makes you complicit in your own destruction.

Multiple sources now verify that Trump did request (several times) 10,000 National Guard Troops be on hand for the January 6th Rally, just because of the size of the event and the location.
This was turned down- by Pelosi and others. Why? Because that would interfere with plans to create a major incident?

It's not really about Trump- it's about the concept of a nation maintaining it's strength, it honor and it's freedom, or being taken over by political corruption equivalent to a massive con scheme, which can't survive unless it destroys those values. Trump is just the messenger- and as they can't address the message, they want to destroy the messenger, hoping it will go away- but it won't. With every ugly trick they pull, Trump gets stronger. More of the left realizes they are being used, and are shifting their thinking. As he gets stronger- the desperation grows, and the tactics get dirtier.

This kind of crap is being repeated over and over, and most lefties just bobble-head approve of it. The democrats haven't lowered the bar of their behavior- they have discarded it. The nation is in great peril, simply because people lacking honor and moral standards have found enough gullible followers to give them power. I'm amazed that so many lack the foresight to see where this is leading them.

This is not what America has been, not what American standards have upheld, not what American honor demands. Never in history have we had a government willing to fabricate claims and prosecute the opposition to stay in power- but we clearly have that today. Buying into that helps turn America into a banana republic kind of nation- where nobody, of any party, is safe or free.

You should realize that.

 

So... you are trying to defend you hypocrisy by deflecting to a different issue? Is this how you validate your partisan inability to be consistent?

 

The thread is about Trump's inner circles and their transgressions, my post was one reminder.

 

this thread isn't about Biden, but that is an interesting question

 

I started to read your post, but came upon this whopper which in my mind, makes your entire post uncredible. "Multiple sources"? - in that case, you'll have no problem citing one reputable source.

Here's a Fact Check from a reputable Conservative publication "The Hill"

7/2021
AP fact check rates GOP claim Pelosi blocked National Guard on Jan. 6 ‘false’

A recent fact check by The Associated Press found that an assertion being made by members of the House Republican Conference that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was responsible for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol due to security reasons is not true.

“As Speaker of the House, Pelosi does not direct the National Guard,” the AP reported in its fact check. “Further, as the Capitol came under attack, she and the Senate Majority leader called for military assistance, including the National Guard.”

 

Any rational person, assuming they are honorable and just in their character, knows that Trump is the target of a Vendetta- because he threatens the entrenched corruption of government. This started when he first announced he was running for president, in 2015. That is further evidenced by the endless strings of attacks that address personality- because they can't make a case over performance. This is politics, on a level equivalent to the worst dictator tactics in the world. There are a hundred attacks, all directed towards removing Trump from politics and influence- desperate, hail-mary kind of crap. Any entity that is so engaged, willing to manipulate truth, law, justice and people to achieve it's goals and build it's power- is proving they are capable of anything; that there are no moral limits for them. Given this undeniable truth, and the fact they distort and twist every possible event to achieve this goal- they would never recognize any truth benefitting Trump, and would do their best to bury it. We expect that from the left today. It is despicable, dishonorable, and in general treasonous, as it attacks all American values. The people behind this have no credibility at all other than to know that if they say something in regards to it, the odds are 100-1 it's a lie.
Trump isn't the real issue here. He, like Biden, is old enough that time limits his personal impact. However, his objectives are seen as an ongoing threat to the entrenched and traditional political corruption; a change in the entire character of government to require performance and loyalty to the constitution from all who are part of it. That is what they fear. Trump is the messenger, the voice endorsing that at this point in time- and that has made him their target. IF you are a rational person, honorable and just in character, you know this is happening. It's not a matter of being pro-Trump, but of being pro-America. Freedom and democracy are under attack, and that will not stop if Trump is destroyed- it will exponentially grow. There are enough people who still have honor to recognize dishonor, and reject it. That is why Trump is ahead of Biden in every poll that isn't the product of the left.

Part of what such people must do to portray Jan 6th as an "insurrection" and be able to blame it on Trump is to bury any evidence that he opposed violence.... and bury the evidence that they created and choreographed it. This includes the manipulation of information- turning news into propaganda. I will assume you are savvy enough to know that at this point, we can no longer take for granted that what we hear or read is is truth- which once was virtually beyond question, because our media took great pride in it's journalistic standards. That standard is dead today, and most of the media serves political powers. However- the truth is not yet invisible. Ignore what people say... Pay attention to what they do. When you were a kid, you may have had coloring books where you "connect the dots" to outline an image. Look at the political events of today and connect the dots. It's very, very clear. Ugly, but clear.

So- here's some reports responding to your denial:

Retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg said last week that former President Donald Trump did in fact request National Guard troops be deployed in Washington D.C. before the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Kellogg said he was present at the time of Trump’s request, and Congress should release his testimony to the public. General Keith was the national security advisor to Mike Pence, the VP at the time.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...n-6th-asks-congress-to-release-his-testimony/


“The former J6 Select Committee apparently withheld Mr. Ornato’s critical witness testimony from the American people because it contradicted their pre-determined narrative. Mr. Ornato’s testimony proves what Mr. Meadows has said all along President Trump did, in fact, offer 10,000 National Guard troops to secure the U.S. Capitol, which was turned down,” Rep. Barry Loudermilk said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ing-trump-s-call-for-guard-troops/ar-BB1jPEHl

The former chief of U.S. Capitol Police says security officials at the House and Senate rebuffed his early requests to call in the National Guard ahead of a demonstration in support of President Trump that turned into a deadly attack on Congress. Former chief Steven Sund -- who resigned his post last week after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for him to step down -- made the assertions in an interview with The Washington Post published Sunday.
Moreover, if an offer was clearly made, it undermines the allegations that Trump was actively seeking an insurrection. While he has never been charged with an insurrection or even incitement, that allegation was used more recently to support his disqualification from the ballots in Colorado, Maine, and Illinois.
The transcript contains the testimony of former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Ornato’s interview on January 2022 with Cheney present. Ornato states that he clearly recalled the offer of 10,000 troops being made by Trump in a conversation with D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser:

“I was there, and he was on the phone with her and wanted to make sure she had everything that she needed. Because I think it was the concern of anti and pro groups clashing is what I recall…I remember the number 10,000 coming up of, you know, the President wants to make sure that you have enough. You know, he is willing to ask for 10,000. I remember that number.”

Ornato said that Browser said that they would not need the troops. (She ultimately asked for only 300 troops). There are also reports that then Speaker Nancy Pelosi was worried about the “optics” of military reinforcements at the Capitol.

Ornato also said that he recalled that, after Bowser refused additional National Guard members, the White House requested the Defense Department have a “quick reaction force” ready on that day. He gave details on meetings with the Defense Department and follow up from Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.

https://jonathanturley.org/2024/03/...e-10000-national-guard-troops-on-january-6th/

 

This time I stopped after your first sentence.

Trump is responsible for Trump's legal woes. Nobody else.

• Trump was the one who sexually assaulted E. Jean Carroll.
• Trump was the sore loser who refused to accept the results of the election, and hatched a Fake Elector plot.
• Trump was the one who took classified documents, and refused to return them.
• Trump was the one who used his personal money to pay off a Porn Star and a Playboy Model, and then fraudulently claimed business expenses.
• Trump was the one who made a phone call, asking Georgia SOS to find him more votes.
• Trump...
• Trump...
• Trump...

 

Of course you did. You were thinking that alternate truth doesn't exist, because the sources you feed on say it doesn't, and you- for some reason, fail to question that.
So no matter what the evidence, Trump is guilty - and he is guilty of one thing; of being a threat to the goals of the leftists. I already know that, and openly agree with it. The only question is if you are one who has allowed themselves to be consumed by the hate campaign, and discarded thinking for yourself.... and you have addressed that clearly. Why not make a longer list? Since reality doesn't matter, there's no limit to what you can imagine is true, and consider that imagination as adequate evidence that it is true.

 

Facts are facts. There are no alternative facts or alternative truths. The loss of a $787 million lawsuit, for allowing liars to continually spout their false allegations, should tell you something about your sources.

 

But the left has several kinds of "facts" and most of them are fabrication- "alternatives " created though distortion of law, of law- and downright fabrication.
Maybe you have no experience with the law- but I can sue you for $100 million because I don't like the shape of your nose, and find it offensive and harmful to my quality of life.
AND- if the court handling this is in my pocket and hates you... you could lose.
In any honorable court such a suit would be dismissed as frivolous by the first judge. What is allowing this charade, this use of law as political weapons- is the lack of moral character of the left- and the total void of honor in those behind it. Unfortunately, you are trusting what they tell you.
That sets you up for all kinds of bad things in the future. If they can do it to Trump- they can do it to you, and when that is advantageous... they will.
That is a truth of human nature.

Read Jonathan Turley's take on the current NYC trial below. And note that a number of others highly qualified in law agree with him on most of the charges against Trump.
(Jonathan Turley is an American attorney, legal scholar, writer, commentator, and legal analyst in broadcast and print journalism and a professor at George Washington University Law School)

"Fox News contributor and legal expert Jonathan Turley said former President Donald Trump’s trial in Manhattan over allegedly falsifying business records has left him “in utter disbelief.”

“What is clear, is in this case, Trump is right. I mean, this is an embarrassment. I mean, the fact that we are actually talking about this case being presented in a New York courtroom, leaves me in utter disbelief. I mean, the the arguments today did in fact capture all the problems here,” Turley said Monday afternoon on Fox News.

"You had this misdemeanor under state law, that had run out, this is going back to relate it to the 2016 election. And they zapped it back into life by alleging that there was a campaign finance violation under the federal laws that doesn't exist," he said.

Turley was reacting to the trial Monday, which has officially kicked off in earnest after jury selection last week, as well as a recent poll finding 31% of Americans find Trump’s behavior at the crux of the case unethical, but not illegal. While an additional 14% said there was “nothing wrong” with Trump’s actions, and 35% who said his actions were “illegal.”

“This case should not have been brought , and if it were brought, there was no reason to have this right before the election in my view. But this is becoming the split screen election,” Turley said. “Earlier it was pretty damaging to see the split screen between Trump in different courtrooms. This is even more effective when the other side of the screen shows Biden campaigning in key states like Pennsylvania, while he's held in this courtroom."

“It really brings home something that bothers a lot of Americans, including people don't particularly like Trump, that this is the weaponization of the criminal legal system. It's something we should all be able to condemn."

I don't think you want to live in a country that allows such crap- but I could be wrong. Maybe you like it.

 

I just mentioned that FAUX News allows all these liars on their platform, as evidenced by the $787 million Dominion judgement that went against them. And who do you quote as a rebuttal - A FAUX News regular.

 

And yu only buy propaganda from the people determined to make America a Banana Republic, and call everything else lies. Nobody can help a person who is blind by choice.

Joe just introduced a plan to increase the capital gains taxes by 50%, to the highest level in 100 years, so he can give more away.

Try rising above the level of minion pawns and think independently.

 

None of the mainstream news channels have incurred anything. close to a settlement of this magnitude.
Have you noticed the deficit recently? Have you noticed the debt? Trump added $8 Trillion in debt over 4 years. Despite the massive interest accrued on the Trump debt, Biden is projected to come in at $7 Trillion. This deficit and this debt will not be solved by spending cuts alone. I believe the top tier tax rate has to be raised to ‘50s, ‘60s, and ‘70s levels. Capital gains tax hikes are another way to help with this, by taxing people like me, instead of the poor and lower/middle class.

 

I've gotten used to the hornswoggle that leaks from eveything on the left. but you're pushing the boundaries.

 

The truth can sometimes hornswoggle popular perceptions.