Could Trump Murder Nancy Pelosi on National TV with Immunity?

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Could Trump Murder Nancy Pelosi on National TV with Immunity?

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  1. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you want NATO and Biden to sit back and do nothing, while Putin's thugs marched toward Kiev? We are not in a war. We are providing arms, while others risk their lives. Poland is a NATO member state, and they are right next door. How do you think they would react if we sat back and idly did nothing? Biden and his cabinet have made the right moves, without risking American lives. Frankly, anything other avenue would have been dangerous to world security.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Is that supposed to be responsive to something from my posts?
    Read my posts and paste up a quote urging Biden to "sit back" -- if you can find one. :)
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    You highlighted the following.

    Nevertheless, on their watch the United States has been drawn into a set of major new wars whose unintended consequences threaten to prematurely end the Biden presidency and transfer the reins of global power back to Trump. Like Ward, they had set out to tell an uplifting story about American global leadership, but at some point they lost the plot.”

    Presumably from that highlighting, it would appear that you are against support for the Ukraine war.
     
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    I support the war in Ukraine and Biden's support for that war. I have vigorously opposed Trump's and the RP's isolationism.

    But remember Biden's first response to the Russian invasion was to offer Zelensky safe transit out of Ukraine. IOW, Biden with advice form his "A-Team" tried to facilitate the surrender of Ukraine to Russian invaders. This grotesque attempt to appease Putin/Russias aggression failed only because of the courage and effectiveness of Zelensky and the courage and effectiveness of the Ukrainian military to stand and fight.

    Ukraine success on the battlefield allowed Biden time to recover from his policy blunder -- time he was not given in Afghanistan. I continue to support his current policy of providing substantial military aid to Ukraine, but the administration has been consistently slow to provide the kind of effective long range weapons systems that would have significantly reduced Ukrainian casualties and helped Ukraine actually push Putin's war machine out of Ukraine.

    Biden, as President is ultimately and primarily responsible for our policy in Ukraine, but Presidents have to rely on the military and foreign policy experts that advise them, and the pool of advisors has been unreliable for decades. Nevertheless, IMO, at this point Biden, who learns from mistakes, is far more likely to do the right thing with respect to Ukraine than any potential alternative.

    "The narrowness of The Internationalists’ framing is noticeable in Ward’s section about the run-up to the war in Ukraine. Ward casts US support for Ukraine as redemptive for Team Biden: He describes, as they would, how America successfully stood up for a beleaguered democracy invaded by its far larger authoritarian neighbor. Even so, much of this section reads like a series of cascading disasters—from the failed diplomatic campaign to prevent Vladimir Putin from doing the unthinkable to the frustrating efforts to persuade Volodymyr Zelensky that an invasion was imminent. In Ward’s telling, Biden and his team never sought war and tried at every opportunity to avert it, and this is probably correct as far as it goes, but of course the backstory of the Ukraine war didn’t begin under the Biden administration; it was the result of years of escalating tensions between the US and Russia, tensions that were sometimes stoked by hawks in Washington. The war that resulted hasn’t been an unmitigated success either, especially after last summer’s failed Ukrainian counteroffensive; proclaiming it a redemption story for American foreign policy is premature at best."
    THE NATION, The Great Humbling, How Did Joe Biden’s Foreign Policy Go So Off Course?, BOOKS & THE ARTS / DAVID KLION, APRIL 9, 2024.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-foreign-policy-internationalists/n

    JRB needs "an unmitigated success" soon.
     
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    Your topic and poll is actually quite insightful........

    Does the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. research imply that USA Republicans or Conservatives up here in Canada..... are superior to the average person living in German during the 1920's, 1930's and 1940's?

    No... not really!!!!!!!!

    Those of us who term ourselves " conservative" do have darkness within our souls.......

    that is real.......

    and pretty scary!!!!!

    Having given all of this some thought I finally went with MAYBE as my answer to your poll??????!!!!!!

    Thank you for this truly challenging question!!!!!!!????


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    Could Trump Murder Nancy Pelosi on National TV with Immunity?

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-and-the-media.331262/page-3#post-1072106575




    Near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava has been warning Jews in Israel... and Jews in America...... that an Exodus of USA Jews to Israel is coming..........

    his warning should be taken very, very, very seriously!!!!!

    Exodus USA

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/exodus-usa.520741/#post-1068368513



    In a way......
    I think that your question and poll is kind of like asking ARE AMERICANS READY TO CREATE COLOSEUMS AND THROW LIBERALS TO THE LIONS .... as was done in Ancient Rome??????!!!!!
     
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    Good Lord Dennis, did you get any sleep?
     
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    Exactly.....!!!!!

    Up here in Canada information has came out that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was listening to plans that

    fitted in shockingly well with the 2010 lecture by Bill Gates... "Innovating to zero".... and......

    .... the most messed up group here in North America... the extreme left.....
    tend to be worried that the people who they think of as their arch rivals have similar plans toward them.....

    that they actually have in mind.

    The lecture "Innovating to zero" by Bill Gates reminds me of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler on many levels......



    A lot of people really do believe that the people they regard as their rivals have terrible plans for their group......

    BigMedia led by BigBanking, BigOil and BigPharma have together done an effective job of keeping us Canadians and Americans terribly divided.

    In a way.... I look back at where I was at in 1988... and I would call myself overly fearful in comparison to the relative Shalom that I have now in 2024.


    Are many of Joe Biden's troubles P. M. Justin Trudeau's fault?



    https://rumble.com/vc0aax-canada-te...oRsMadeMdZr0wJoHa9ZdLnLPFfAQexozs1yEkmlpKwPaI
     
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    The orange sociopath disagrees “You have to give a president full and total immunity!”
     
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    My mistake - this thread fits you perfectly.
     
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    Good answer. A lot of Republicans don't know the history of the immunity request - specifically that the DC Circuit Court asked Trump's lawyer "if the President ordered a Navy Seal Team to assassinate his political rival, would he be immune from prosecution?" Trump's lawyer answered "Yes".
     
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    I'd find a way to forgive him.
     
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    Biden's attorneys said the same thing.
     
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    This seems like a straw man, to make the claim that this appeal case boils down to that.
     
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    Well the SCOTUS has by-and- large dismissed the immunity argument. So in essence, you are correct- this was all about delaying the Jack Smith Jan 6th case.
     
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    That's literally what Trump's lawyers have been arguing. Yes, the case does boil down to this. Trump's argument REQUIRES this extreme.
     
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