School, NYPD 'cannot guarantee Jewish students' safety - Columbia rabbi tells Jewish students to lea

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Should Jewish students exit college campues

  1. Yes, for their own safety

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  2. Yes, to demonstrate that they must be welcomed peacefully into academia

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  3. No

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Idk if the right is anti Jewish but all the left wingers seem to think the RW is anti Jewish.

    All I'm saying, is from the outside looking in, it would appear both sides are anti Jewish. Because the left is extremely anti Jewish in UK. The right, less so
     
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  2. FreshAir

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    from what I heard the chants were "Death To America" and there were threats to Jews on Campus, that is what crosses the line

    they can voice their opinions without threats of death or violence to their fellow Americans
     
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  3. dairyair

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    Wow, this thread brought out the conspiracy theory nutters.

    Jewish students are being targeted because of ignorance.
    Like Middle east minorities were being targeted after 911.

    Ignorance breeds hate.
     
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    MORE LIKE THIS, PLEASE: New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft ‘not comfortable supporting’ Columbia amid pro-Palestinian protests.

    “I am no longer confident that Columbia can protect its students and staff and I am not comfortable supporting the university until corrective action is taken.”​

    A well made point.

    The Left's Hamas wing of Columbia is so out of control that they cannot even hold classes on campus.

    '“To deescalate the rancor and give us all a chance to consider next steps, I am announcing that all classes will be held virtually on Monday,” Columbia President Minouche Shafik said in a note to the school community.'

    Metastasizing Hate Pouring Out From Too Much Of The Left

    “It was through the full academic scholarship Columbia gave me that I was able to attend college and get my start in life and for that, I have been tremendously grateful. However, the school I love so much - the one that welcomed me and provided me with so much opportunity - is no longer an institution I recognize,” said Kraft, who is also the founder of the Foundation to Combat Antisemitism. “I am deeply saddened at the virulent hate that continues to grow on campus and throughout our country. I am no longer confident that Columbia can protect its students and staff and I am not comfortable supporting the university until corrective action is taken.”

    'Located on the campus of Columbia is The Kraft Center, which houses all aspects of Jewish life. Kraft says he hopes the building will serve as a source of security for all Jewish students and faculty who want to “gather peacefully to practice their religion, to be together, and to be welcomed.”'

    Heart Breaking
     
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    Israel can win. Ukraine can't.
     
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    Columbia Is So Dangerous For Jewish Students That That Can't Even Hold Class On Campus. Faculty Walkout in Support of Hamas

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    'Columbia University has ceded its campus to the antisemites. Columbia has fallen. Hamasholes now occupy the campus, and the administration has conceded the campus to them.'

    'New “Gaza Solidarity Encampments” erected at Yale, NYU, University of Michigan as $90K/year Columbia University goes fully remote due to ongoing Palestine Liberation protests and concern for student safety.'

    'this is what decolonization looks like. Decolonize Columbia! Can we have our degrees now and six-figure jobs?'

    Threaten Mass Rape And Murder Of Jewish Students

    pro-H@mas Columbia protestors yell at Jewish students: "Never forget the 7th of October. That will happen not one more time, not five more times, not 10...100…The 7th of October is going to be every day for you."

    'The campus has become unsafe for Jews, with students calling for their exclusion, chasing them off campus, and even calling for their deaths.'

    'Protestors at Columbia University call Jews "pigs" and claim "we are Hamas" and "long live Hamas."'

    'They threw bottles at Jews, at Yale a girl was stabbed in the eye with a flag, several Israelis were assaulted in NYC.'

    Their violence is called "speech"
    Our speech is called "violence".

    Hamas Terror Literature being distributed in Michigan, today

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    'For over a decade, we have been lectured about "safe spaces," which is code for oppressive speech codes and censorship. Now we see what "safety" really means: a takeover that serves only the Left. We all knew it; now everybody can see it.'

    Remember when Yale discouraged Halloween costumes because they made some feel "unsafe"?

    'Yale protestors accost Jewish student w/a boombox, dancing to rap lyrics:
    F* Israel, Israel a b*tch
    B* we out here mobbin' on some Palestine sh*t
    Free Palestine B*, Israel gon' die B* N*gga it's they land why you out here tryna rob it
    Bulls* prophets, Y'all just want the profit'
     
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  7. Steve N

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    It's not safe for a Jew to be around liberals which is why Josh Hawley wants Biden to protect them.


    Jewish Columbia student says protesters burned his Israeli flag, hit him in face with rocks

    A Jewish student at Columbia University said anti-Israel protesters snatched and burned his Israeli flag, then struck him in the face with rocks during campus unrest over the weekend.

    Jonathan Lederer, 22, told cops he was displaying the Israeli flags shortly before 10 p.m. Saturday when a protester grabbed one of them and took off — while another agitator burned a second flag.

    According to police, Lederer started shooting video of the incident when two other anti-Israel protesters hurled rocks at him, hitting him in the face before taking off.

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    https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-ne...-his-israeli-flag-hit-him-in-face-with-rocks/
     
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    Jonathan Turley writes: “Deactivated:” Columbia Reportedly Blocks Jewish Professor from Access to Campus.

    Deactivated because he is openly Jewish on a US University Campus in a Blue City.

    'The most basic obligation of a university is to ensure the safety of its faculty and students from physical assaults. If there is a problem on campus, it is found in those students or faculty who would threaten a Jewish professor if he were to walk on campus.'

    'This is barring a professor because his status alone makes his presence inflammatory or dangerous. I cannot imagine how the solution was barring the potential victim of religious-based bigotry and violence.'

    'University President Nemat “Minouche” Shafik should have issued a statement yesterday. There are calls for Shafik to resign. That position is not helped by the silence on the barring of a faculty member. If the accounts are untrue, Shafik needs to say so. If they are true, she needs to explain the basis for this extraordinary action. I cannot imagine the basis for such a deactivation since Shafik has not been accused of any threatening conduct himself.'

    'As major donors like Robert Kraft pull their financial support from Columbia, the school will need to respond more quickly and transparently to such controversies. That can start by reactivating the card of Professor Davidai and supplying whatever security is needed to allow him and others to walk around campus without fear of assault.'

    'Meanwhile, it’s back to the (virtual) bunkers for the rest of the students and faculty there, as the demons of 1933 and 2020 converge:' Columbia University faces calls for tuition refunds as school moves to hybrid classes for rest of semester in wake of anti-Israel protests.

    Ensuring the safety of students, faculty, and visitors is an essential function of a University. If these were Trump supporters they would not hesitate to restore order and expel. But because they are Hamas, and the Left is worried about carrying Michigan and Minnesota, they have turned over control of the campus to this deranged pro-terrorists Leftwing mob.
     
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    Violations of the law on campus generally violate the student code of conduct. Such violations are grounds for suspension or expulsion.
    Expel them.
     
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  10. Reality

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    You do not have a right to squat on public land and deny others entry or use of it, or to harass them for attempting to pass by.
    Squatting is not protected speech, and the college has a vested interest in removing anyone who claims to "occupy" the campus and sets up a tent ****ing city.
     
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    There is no right to set up a tent city and harass people for the sin of their perceived ethnicity.
     
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    You realize that halting harassment of american citizens based upon their race or ethnicity, and removing squatters, has exactly jack **** to do with anyone defending islamophobia?
     
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  13. Reality

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    What would be needed to open fire? An action that imminently threatens unlawful use of deadly force.
    Chanting or saying you're part of Hamas? Ain't that.
     
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    Considering USA is currently run by democrats and apparently they are all antisemities, then it's fair to say we are witnessing the rise of the fourth Reich!
     
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    What if there's a very large item strapped under their shirt, thats obviously not part of their body, and they proclaim they are hamas and yell "Aluah Ackbar" while holding up a device (from the distance you can't tell if its a detonator or not)
    Do we wait for the explosion? At what point can they react? What's the least thing needed for them to react? Just curious.
     
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    There isn't a brightline of "if they do X you can do Y".
    There is a reasonable use of force paradigm.

    Nothing that has been done authorizes a Kent State you bloodthirsty lunatic.
     
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    insults are not necessary. These are just hypothetical questions. Thanks for the info that you did give.
    Also just thought its very funny to call someone that while trying to defend a bunch of blood thirsty jew hating leftist college kids chanting gleefully about "final solutions" and "death to america", but hey, i'm used to it with you people by now
    Thanks again, Cheers!
     
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    FFS I'm one of the proponents of handling these encampments.

    That doesn't mean you can just open fire into a random crowd for the sin of saying something you find to be yucky.
     
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    What's happening on campuses now has nothing to do with Trump. I realize he fills in as an all purpose devil figure for you leftists, but the truth is, this is all your guys. Your ideology, and your hate.
     
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    the hate for Jews ramped up during Trump, and Trump did not help it one bit
     
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    Trump ramped up hatred of Jews? That's absurd. He has Jewish family.

    But it's no surprise that you think that.
     
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    Trump most certainly raised tensions between Jews and Muslims, moving the US Embassy for one

    ending the Iran deal did not help, making deals with terrorists in the middle east, etc....
     
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    That had nothing to do with what is going on now. You're simply trying to change the subject. Look up at the subject line.
     
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    Yes, I voted that Jewish students should leave school for their own safety. Safety is largely an illusion that depends on the honor system of folks not to commit violence against others.

    My other vote is to post away that some college campuses are starting to roll out online classes for the last few weeks of school so that students who don't feel safe can participate from home. I think more of this should be done. The students already paid for their classes for this semester, and they should get their money's worth or get a refund from the college for circumstances beyond their control.
     

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