To the parents of Jews who's college age children were told to stay home today

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He didn't ask about Netanyahu. Are you gonna answer his question? This is supposed to be a constructive thread. Do your part.
     
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    unlike some in the USA, not due to being anti semites
     
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    I think you are asking too much
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not in the undergraduate college, nor the law school. I cannot speak for some of the graduate departments. In my class of about 1200, I recall a South African but I believe he had British citizenship, and our squash team had three Canadians (there were at least 15 Canadians in my class IIRC) two guys from Ghana. The Tennis team had the Canadian #1 (he was a couple years behind me) a guy who played Davis Cup for Peru and the soccer team had a couple guys from England and a couple from West Africa. but those were spread out over the entire undergraduate college.
     
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    I have been here calling them out for years.
    So have many other liberals, just not enough and not loudly enough. The vast majority of liberals disagree with the woke identitarian authoritarian segment of the left, but are too easily shamed into silence with cry bullying.
     
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    It was loaded question (presuming he doesn't like Israel) and a false dichotomy of reasons why if so. Questions like that are not answerable, much like "when did you stop beating your wife?".
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was a very simple question. The complex part was your answer. It almost sounds like your answer implies "we hate Jews because some people don't like Netenyahu". I'm just saying thats what it SOUNDS like so please don't get mad. You do have a chance to answer it here and clear the confusion.
    3....2....1....GO!!!!
     
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    These are our future "leaders". Antisemitic bigots, some clueless who are just along for the ride, others dangerous and violent, stalking, surrounding people. And they call themselves EDUCATED?!

    Imagine if all these people were speaking out against BLM? How quickly would the MSM be doxing and demanding they're all expelled for racism.

    Per usual, Jews have and always will be the bad guys for simply existing.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I thought.
    Amazing that you understood but the Turtle didn't have a clue. And a Yale man at that.
     
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    I'm shocked! SHOCKED!! That you can come up with 10 in the last 2 months since the issue only started 6 months ago and has escalated to the point of the protests in the last 2 months.
     
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    Lest we forget...the left has been having anti-semitic protests almost every day since October 7th and it's getting worse.

    That's a lot of Charlottesville's your side is hosting
     
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    In this thread, who on the left is calling them out? So far the only argument I've heard is "Charlottesville," which is pretty weak tea considering. You had plenty of voices on the right condemning Charlottesville, but I've not heard much in the way in condemnation from the left of the multiple and continuing anti Jewish protests that have been going on.

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    I didn't answer it. I couldn't answer it because the presumptions in the question don't apply to me. Again, just like you can't answer the question "Why do you beat your wife?"... because you don't.

    Again, you've presumed "we hate Jews". Some actually do hate Jews, but far far more don't, and are standing up against the Netenyahu regime's actions, not Jews.
    Conflation of the Netenyahu regime's agenda with "Jews", intentional or not, is an error. Many of those opposing the Netenyahu regime are themselves Jews.
    And before you make anothe presumption, no, I'm not myself party to any of these protests and don't particularly support them.
     
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    I am, for one.

    It isn't an argument at all. It is a tu quoqe fallacy. That there exists anti-semitism on the right does not in any way excuse anti-semitism on the left, and vice versa.

    Then you need to open your ears and eyes wider and refrain from projection and straw manning. The vast majority of people protesting are NOT anti-Jew, and NOT anti-Israel either. They are protesting what the Netenyahu regime has been doing against others, primarily in Gaza (but now also seemingly seeking to start a war with Iran). A few vocal ant-semites do join with them. And then cry bullies guilt too many liberals into not speaking up against hateful people on the left. Tribalism also kicks in, as they would rather defeat Republicans on talking points than solve problems. The same happens with many Republicans. You've got a serious tribalism and polarization issue in your politics.
     
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    I'm just still amazed that people pay to go to these liberal shitholes.....err 'elite' universities. If you wanted that kind of programming, you can save the cost and just watch CNN/MSNBC instead.
     
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    Although on the left, you're Canadian, and not really representative of US politics. Which is probably why you can look at these with a somewhat dispassionate view. You are not representative. Representative would be the traditionally leftist posters who've posted in this thread already.

    I simply disagree with your contention that anti-Semites are a minority of the protestors. That's not evident in the videos I've seen at all, at least the most recent protests at Columbia and Yale. Nor is it in evident by my on-the-scene reporter there at Columbia. These protests are all about anti-Semitism. The Palestinians are simply the current excuse.
     
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    No, people have been having anti-war and anti-Israel protests.

    That's not the same as anti-semitic. But hey, what are facts to righties ?
     
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    Ivy League University Installs Jew Detectors At All Entrances https://buff.ly/3Qlokvu

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    Hopefully, on some future day, Jews will again be safe on US College campuses in Blue Cities.

    "This is a step in the right direction," President Gay told reporters. "It might not be the last step. We are always looking for a final solution to the Jewish problem on campus."

    'The move to install Jew detectors at all entrances comes amidst a wave of anti-semitic attacks on campus. The hope in using the detector system is that, once detected, Jewish students can be safely concentrated away in a location or camp where they will be free to be Jewish away from the other students.'

    'The detectors, which claim to be capable of detecting a Jew with 99.99% accuracy, are designed to pick up the most blatant Zionism, basic ethnic markers, and even the slightest trace of disgust over the targeted murder and kidnapping of children for the noble cause of freeing Palestine.'

    "The Jew detector systems we have installed show our resolve in tackling bigotry and keeping everybody safe while maintaining our commitment to free expression and tolerance," Gay said in her announcement.
     
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    I think many on the right are overlooking the great danger of conflating Jew with Nettanyahu regime. If you convince people these are synonomous, then when Nettanyahu regime does something horrible, it is going to increase anti-semitism. It causes the very harm they are expressing concern over.
     
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    What in the living heck does that have to do with Jews in the USA being harassed and attacked on college campuses? Last I checked none of those students are in Palestine or Israel so your excuse FAILS hard.
    Its ok, you aren't the only one using that same excuse so I know it comes directly from the hive.
    Nothing wrong with having your OWN thoughts and opinions. I suggest breaking from the hive for a day and experiencing some individual freedom.

    Instead of condemning their behavior you decide to blame ONE GUY on the other side of the world?
    SAD!
     
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    AYFKM: Columbia president told Congress this prof was ‘terminated.’ Now it appears he’s ‘holding class’ INSIDE Columbia’s gates among pro-Hamas camp.

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    'Abdou praised Hamas and the tactics it used during an interview in November 2023.'

    “The warriors, the resistance fighters that were in Hamas, numbered less than 1,500 and look how they flipped the table—not only on an entire settler colonial state with no definable borders, but rather on the whole world,” Abdou said, referring to the Oct. 7 attack in Israel.

    “You don’t need mass movements to change the world,” he continued. “You need a dedicated thousand, 1,500, a few thousand, that really are organized and know what it is that they’re doing, what they’re fighting for.”

    “Meanwhile, Shai Davidai, a pro-Israel Columbia professor, reported Monday that his key card wouldn’t work to access campus.”

    This is who they are. Do not look away.
     
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    Nothing. Attacks and harassment of anyone, Jew, Muslim, Gay, Trans, Black, White, is inexcusable and those responsible should be punished. That's not the vast majority of protesters. Those who are merely protesting Israel's actions should not be painter with the same brush.

    I would strongly suggest the same to you. Your bias has kept you from reading and responding to what I actually wrote above, and responding as if I said something else.

    Condemning whose behaviour? I condemn those who do wrong regardless of what side they purport to be on. That includes anyone who attacks or harasses anyone for being Jewish, and also includes the Netanyahu regime, Hamas, etc.

    And again, my point above was that standing up and protesting against the Nettenyahu regime and what it is going to Palestinians is not anti-Jewish. And treating things as such will only increase rather than decrease anti-Jewish sentiment.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where's the Antisemitism inspired events ya'll keep speaking of???

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    Do you want me to pretend that's the green part that says "other". I'm not seeing anything about religions or antisemitism in the data. I even did you a solid and did a Ctrl + F in the article for "antisemitism". Not ONE instance of even that word.
    Is this really the best you can do? At least you gave SOME math. that's more than i expected from Team Blue. Thanks for sharing!
     
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    Thank you for the cope. It was quite amusing.
     
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    He did ask about Netanyahu. That's the PM of Israel. Read the news.
     

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