Scumbag Bragg Implements the Plan to Mislead the Jury about the Charges

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    More precisely, it has to be articulated what crime was being concealed by falsifying the business records.

    The Leftist fail rate in doing that, is 100%, so far.
     
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    Yup. There’s no crime here! Please disperse.
     
  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Feel free to show it to us...lol.
     
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    I have. About 25 times…lol
     
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    Why do you guys keep ignoring this law? § 17-152. Conspiracy to promote or prevent election. Any two or more
    persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to
    a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by
    one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

    Unlawful means = falsifying business records in this case
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    It would be if it weren't being used to commit another crime
     
  7. Zorro

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    The safe bet, I think, is to figure that they are going to land this punch. The question is, will it help them or hurt them.

    You know who knows all about crooked prosecutors, corrupt judges and rigged juries? Black and Latino Men. They've been telling us this for years, and finally we believe it.

    Look for Trump to turn that into a powerful message.
     
  8. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No, it still wouldn't be...lol. You're getting very confused.
     
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    The Grand Jury didn't charge him with that.
     
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    He isn't going to let it end without a guilty verdict.

    I don't know if judges in New York can overrule a jury's verdict, but if he can, you can bet your sweet ass he will, if that's what it takes to get a guilty verdict for the Bad Orange Man.
     
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    What’s he going to do? Is he going to go into deliberations and tell the jurors how to vote?
     
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    wysiwyg My freind..
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised at an attempt..
     
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    That state law doesn't apply to Federal elections, only state elections. State election laws only apply to state and local offices...

    4. The term “public officer” as used in this article shall be deemed to apply to any person who holds an elective or appointive office of the state, separate authority or any political subdivision of the state with authority to supervise other personnel within such subdivisions.

    https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-17-100/
     
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    Yes, that's how falsifying business records in the first degree works in New York. They DO NOT have to charge with the crime that elevates it to a felony. There have been prior cases where they did not and got convictions.
     
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    Preemption was brought up and defeated. Perhaps on appeal.
     
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    They've probably already been told how to vote. That could be the reason those two lawyers are there.
     
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    But, the prosecutor DOES have to explain what crime was being concealed.
     
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    Preemption doesn't change the fact that state election law only applies to state and local offices.
     
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    You don't seem to have actually tried to understand the case, but I'll cite that law now. NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

    § 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

    A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree
    when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second
    degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit
    another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

    Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
     
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    You mean he forgot to do that? Oh boy!
     
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    Well, it does apply to federal elections as well, but I don't have time to go digging for proof at the moment, other than the obvious point that the case would not have made it to trial if you were correct.
     
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    George Soros has already got to them?
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    "Falsifying business records in the first degree" requires a concealed crime. IOW, falsifying the business records was intended to conceal another crime.

    Million dollar question: what crime was concealed?
     
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    It's not that you don't have time, it's that you know I'm right.

    "Making it to trial" doesn't lend an ounce of legitimacy to this case...lol
     
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