New poll: 57% of Americans say Trump’s alleged crimes are ‘serious’

I agree that the migrant situation needs to be fixed. A lot of wealthy Americans don't want it fixed. Most of the horrible meat processing jobs are done by migrants, who don't complain about the working conditions, and don't make waves. I'm not sure that qualifies as "a better life" - maybe for their kids.

Senator Lankford was trying to seize the opportunity of the current situation to get the Democrats to concede a lot of their previous talking points. He had the bill, and it would have been more effective than anything to date. But it was blocked, because it was an election year.

 

How can anyone disagree with you on that? Rotten, stinking politics is what this whole 'migrant' thing has been ever since Obama threw open the southern border in 2014 -- and then Trump refused to take decisive, effective action to slam the immigration door SHUT with a moratorium during his first two years in office, when he had Republican majorities in the House and Senate. Now, that opportunity appears to be gone forever, because you can bet your last dime that Democrats will never fix it!

. "De rodillas, cabrones!"

 

New poll: 57% of Americans say Trump’s alleged crimes are ‘serious’

Propaganda works. It is no wonder we have such an incompetent electorate.

 

Very honestly, the charges against Trump regarding classified information and related national security issues ARE 'serious'... but some of the other stuff is little more than opportunistic, vindictive nonsense.

Example: Trump says his New York property is worth much more than its actual value, and goes to some bankers for a loan. Trump makes a representation of his opinion of the property's value -- but is it Trump's fault if the bankers don't research the matter thoroughly before making the loan?!

Also, if Trump paid property and/or corporate taxes based on an inflated value, isn't he due a big REFUND?!

Bottom line: if the Democrats stick to the strict letter of the law, they can hang him on the classified documents thing, but the rest of it is, more or less, bullshit -- and, it's merely an opportunity to demonstrate to American voters that Trump can't "keep that thing in his pants"....

 

A side effect of the vendetta against Trump is a realistic one:
Given that one way or another Trump will be prevented from taking office via court or his untimely death, it is time to drag an issue out of the closet.
There has been a call for a "co presidency" for some time due to the crazy workload of the presidency.
Biden is already America 2.0's official experiment with co-presidency.
The problem is we don't know who it is now, or who it will be then, but I have an idea: Since the trend has been to import California's losers to federal to get rid of them, it has to be Newsom, king of the biggest failed state in the nation.

 

Newsom is not the "king" of a failed state. California is actually quite successful, with a GDP surpassed by only 4 countries in the world, one of them being the United States.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...,at $4.4 trillion, and Japan at $4.2 trillion.

In 2023, only four national economies were larger than California, by GDP math — the U.S. at $27 trillion (that’s with California included), China at $17.7 trillion, Germany at $4.4 trillion, and Japan at $4.2 trillion.

With this experience, Newsom would be a great asset to future high level political office in the US. He also governs in a state with some of the greatest ecological challenges in the Union.

 

That is like the busiest pizza parlor in the world not being able to pay its bills and goes bankrupt.
It is a good economy but a family of four can barely make it on $100k a year.
BTW, regular gasoline is in the $5.70 range. Elderly fixed income and poor cannot heat their houses.
Businesses are leaving due to theft.
Productive people are leaving and homeless are illegals are moving in.
It's not as ideal as you may think.

 

????? Nonsense. He used every power he had as president and DRASTICALLY reduced immigration to manageable levels, the lowest in recent history, through executive order. Even exceeded his authorities several times eventually being overruled by the courts.

 

Thats a blatant lie by Lankford. First because the leadership of the house said it was dead on arrival before Trump said a word and secondly becuase it wasnt near as tough as the immigration bill passed by the house. The Senate bill normalized illegal immigration.

 

???? Actually the wall, where it was built was very effective. Much as Texas' razor wire and shipping container wall at Eagle pass has been very effective. I was down there in 2022 when it was a free for all and recently where the illegals have nearly been stopped. And Presidents dont have the power to simply declare moratoriums. He used every power he could imagine through executive order. Exceeding in several instances where he was reversed by the courts.

 

No, it was blocked because it was a terrible bill. When the first details began to be made public the leadership in the house said it was dead on arrival. The Senate bill normalized illegal immigration.

 

Not true. Hear what Sen. James Lankford (R-OK) had to say about the bill.

 

I disagree. Presidents do have the right (and duty) to both recognize and deal decisively with national security and emergency issues of several different kinds. And, thousands upon thousands of migrants crashing over our borders routinely did, indeed, constitute a "national emergency".

I'm not saying that Trump did nothing of any use at all (like Obama and Biden), but it is a fact that he stated, loud and proud, that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn't). And although there were a few short stretches of wall that stemmed the flow temporarily, to some degree, mostly near urban areas, the vast majority of the planned 1,550 miles of wall would have been essentially useless and almost impossible to maintain in any effective way. If you've ever done any four-wheeling in the desert-mountain country in New Mexico or Texas you know what I mean....

. Take PLENTY of water with you....

 

And Trump responded and reduced illegal immigration into the US to record lows. And Biden, “I would in fact make sure that there is – we immediately surge to the border all those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard. That’s who we are,” And three and a half years later they are still surging in response to his call.

 

"Commentators" dont get to vote on the Senate bill.

House Republican leadership firmly rejected the Senate's new immigration bill, which aims to decrease crossings along the southern border and pass aid for Israel and Ukraine, saying Monday the deal is “DEAD on arrival in the House”—posing a serious challenge to the bill's supporters in both parties.
House GOP Vows Bipartisan Senate Border Deal Is ‘Dead On Arrival’ (forbes.com)

 

Believe me, Dixon, nothing about my view of this sickening 'migration' tragedy is meant to exonerate Biden in any way. I just believe that Trump could have done much, much more. At the very least, he should sealed the border shut to all migration on a national security basis for a protracted period of time, and ordered our United States military to secure our borders, given how great the problem had become by the time Trump took over.

 

The proposed Senate bill, AFTER we exceeded 5000 illegals PER DAY, WOULD HAVE given the President the authority to seal the border for National security. Because Presidents dont have that authority.

 

We should not codify the acceptance of any illegals. They are illegal and should be sent back to enter through a port of entry - every single one.

 

I don't doubt what you're saying. But, again, I maintain that if Trump had declared a national emergency for national security, he could have sealed the border, deployed the military, and stopped this horrible problem before many hundreds of thousands more illegals, criminals, opportunists, and 'asylum' scammers barged in here after Trump became president.

I know he probably couldn't have done much about all of the ones that scurried in here like cockroaches while Obama threw the borders open in 2014, but it's been a LONG time (and many, many thousands of 'migrants' later) since Trump took over in January 2017.... And at this point it's perfectly obvious that Biden will never do anything about it, and probably wouldn't have really done much of anything in the first place but put on a show for the sake of "optics".

."I'm gettin' tough now! (Is the camera recording this?)

 

Yeah. The Senate putting 5000 illegals per day as the trigger only further demonstrates that mass illegal immigration is their goal.

 

Back in 1980 all of those meat packing jobs were done by Americans who were in a union. Inflation adjusted they were making around $25 per hour, had health insurance, dental insurance, vision insurance, and a pension.

 

100% true. Democrats know most Americans oppose their radical policies so they want to flood the nation with illegals who eventually will get citizenship and vote blue no matter who. While big business wants cheap labor.

One of the reasons worker pay went up so fast under Trump is he blocked illegals, deported everyone he could, and raised the companies which hired illegals. Those companies were forced to hire Americans at higher wages. Dems love to lie that "tax cuts only help the rich" but average worker wages went up $6000 per worker under Trump, inflation was low, and the GINI coefficient actually went down (meaning less income inequality) under Trump. All of that reversed under Biden just like it did under Obama.

 

And even without the vote, the dems will get more representatives in the House after the next census, as the number of reps from each state is based upon population including illegals.

 

It is illegal for the U.S. military to operate in the U.S. Posse comitatus. You will need to change the law.

 

I wonder what percentage of the American people believe that the electoral process facilitates citizen control of the government?

When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.