Servants Of Israel

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ron DeSantis, Kristi Noem, Lindsey Graham, Greg Abbott, Brian Mast, Mike Johnson are just a few of the many Servants Of Israel serving in federal and state governments here in the US.

    How many more are there? Lots.

    By way of AIPAC, JINSA and other organizations favoring Israel, these people and the media keep a steady drumbeat for Israeli special treatment. None of these people are in service of the American people, they are in service to Israel.

    Greg Abbott has now become a flaming hypocrite, sending his Israeli-trained troopers to arrest and bash heads last week of those protesting Israeli and US genocide in Gaza. Compared to his righteous defense of First Amendment rights in 2019, he has now done a complete 180 and is violently abusing the First Amendment.

    Should membership in AIPAC and JINSA be considered cause to enroll under the law with FARA, or should another Israeli exception be created?

    Should our police be trained every year by the IDF? Should Brian Mast be sanctioned for wearing the IDF uniform in Congress? Even Tulsi Gabbard marches to the beat of the Israeli drug, very sad.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess that makes most of the left SERVANTS OF HAMAS

    this the best you can do??
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What about our country, is the question.

    If you were an elected official in the US and your loyalties were to another foreign country, how would you vote in legislative and policy matters? Which comes first in the mind of Abbott, DeSantis and Noem, Israel or US citizens?
     
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    If your country is part of the Iran support group, you sure aren’t our friends. If fact, if 9/11 was fine and dandy with you, don’t expect any support from here.
     
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    US citizens.
     
  6. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If all have passed legislation that favors Israel over our own First Amendment, how do you know the US comes first? If the US comes first, why do they all stand in line to urinate on the First Amendment?
     
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    These folks don't have a problem with freedom of speech. They have a problem with harassment, trespass and interference with the freedom of others. So do I. Nothing wrong with favoring Israel. It is a genuine ally of the U.S. It is OK to favor Hamas and Iran if you like. You have the freedom to favor them. You don't have the freedom to harass, trespass and interfere with the lives of others.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're wrong again Mr. Critic. By their actions they have shown that free speech cannot include (under their illegitimate law) speech that Israel cannot tolerate. One can boycott British products, one can defame Britain or Germany or Russia, but one cannot defame Israel.

    You seem to be a very poor critic indeed sir, doing your part to violate the First Amendment. Appeals to emotions is all you and Noem and Graham and Mast have. And of course poor ol' Greg.
     
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    I don't believe there have been any first amendment problems here at all. Government hasn't prevented any speech. Government has pointed out that there can be consequences for what someone says and how they say it. People are defaming Israel every day. Why do you say they cannot? I think emotion has replaced common sense.
     
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    Given that Hamas is loudly chanting that we are next parroting Iran defending Israel is defending us. I can't make the same argument for the Ukraine.
     
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    As told to you by the US government/Military Industrial Complex and fake news media. For example, if they are such an ally, why is the US military currently building a port in Gaza? They're building a port because israel won't let the US use israeli roads to bring humanitarian aid to civilians in Gaza.

    How about the USS Liberty attack? Never has been explained.

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    The reason everyone 'thinks' israel is our ally....the Shah of Iran knew in 1976 (first 3.5 minutes):
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    In at least 30 states, it is a criminal offense (maybe felony, maybe misdemeanor) for a citizen to participate in the BDS movement against Israel. That is separate from what's going on today with the head cracking by (most often) police trained in Israel, head cracking and assault as was done to Jill Stein recently in St. Louis.

    Please explain to me how a state law prohibiting a citizen from participating in BDS against Israel is NOT a violation of First Amendment rights.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Maybe it was too subtle for me, but I don't see any sort of answer to the question "What about the US", "What about our country and our constitutional rights?"
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    With Joe blow Israel is utterly immaterial. Joe is trying to sell out both of us without trying to be too obvious about it.
     
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    If the participation were truly peaceful, then nothing. But they aren't peaceful. There is trespass, harrassment and even battery. Hope that helps.
     
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    Keep in mind that Hamas first attacked Israel, slaughtered many civilians and kidnapped many other civilians, some Americans, which Hamas still holds today. And yet, there are a few in congress who will not condemn Hamas/Iran.
    We have people living in the USA who support a country that chants "Death to the USA". That could be the definition of a moron.
     
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    Or, at least, the ignorance and tractability of youth.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I disagree that Israel is utterly immaterial. It tightly controls the federal government and has for decades at least. Congress is in the process of doing exactly what Israel demands, and crushing the First Amendment in the process. With the Patriot Act, following the lead of Israeli leaders in Congress, they crushed the Fourth Amendment. What Israeli influence does subverts the US Constitution. They are not immaterial.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Participating in BDS schemes is violent?

    Were similar schemes against apartied South Africa decades ago also violent? Could you give examples of the violence of BDS?
     
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    We agree to disagree. Israel is just the bait. The switch is pre existing. Look up the octopus murders for something completely different.
     
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    Israel is our only real allie in the ME. Why shouldn't we support them?
     
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    I don't even know what BDS means. Use English please.
     
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    The US Government is turning on US citizens, our children in college, all to appease their masters in Israel. How unamerican can you get??? They are trying to shut down the first amendment, our most precious right, in order to appease foreign masters, while sending them BILLIONS instead of helping Americans.

    The Uniparty has lost its mind.
     
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    The terrorist sympathizers who are rioting in our colleges are trying to overthrow The United States.
     
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    They ARE the United States. They will soon be running this country, and by the sounds of it will be doing a MUCH better job than the current losers running this country.
     
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