Pecker testimony reveals backroom deals that helped Trump win 2016

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Not in the statement in question. You clearly said “fraud” in commas after addressing me. You owe me an apology for being incomplete.
     
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    NOTHING in your article supports your assertions regarding 2016 and 17. YOU made that up. Just as you made up the assertions of campaign funds to pay Stormy. Your need to fabricate facts only demonstrates the absurdity of your claims.
     
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    Bet your buttocks. I’ve fabricated NOTHING. …That he’s been indicted for committed crimes by altering the financial records is fact. That he’s been asserted of using that money to pay Danials through Cohen is fact. That he’s been accused paying off Cohen with money from his Business trust is fact. Where the heck do you think the money comes from….his businesses aren’t generating as much as his campaigning and scamming..
    That his campaign finances are also used to pay his lawyers is fact….as well as put into his businesses is fact..a trust is nothing more than a dedicate fund for Trump and his businesses to pay his lawyers, his business expenses. That it’s akin to money laundering when hiding the transactions…..is against the law.
    Make no mistake, overtime we think the worse of Trump, we still underestimate his crimes.
     
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    If only the courts could figure that out!
     
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    Nope. Anything Trump or Rudy deny, we find it’s just the opposite. You can count on them lying.
     
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    I QUITE clearly said you fabricated the assertion that Trump used campaign funds in 2016 and 2017. Thus your mad dash for strawmen above.
     
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    THIS court has copies of all the checks. Not a one of them from the Trump campaign. THIS judge has already ruled that Trump cant present any evidence regarding the FECs finding that this was not a campaign finance law violation. Cant mention that both Trumps DOJ and Bidens DOJ never made any charges of violations of Federal Campaign finance law. Cant present evidence from Federal Election law experts to testify that this is not a violation of Federal Election Law. This judge is ensuring that this jury wont figure any of this out.
     
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    Bullshit. I was civil towards you until you began your campaign of insult and ridicule. You're simply not honorable enough, not man enough, to own up to your own nastiness here.

    Now you're just harrassing me. Kindly buzz off.
     
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    Beside the fact that he can't even read and "understand" his own links.
     
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    America's criminal justice system, that the Trump cult abhors (along with certified democratic elections and police who courageously safeguard the expressed will of the People) is particularly repugnant when it requires that the rules of evidence, sworn testimony, civility, and decorum be respected by all, even their messiah.

    In that realm, the sexual abuser is clearly out of his element.

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    So all you had to say was Orange man bad, instead of a paragraph that's a circular word salad meaning literally nothing.
     
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    Apparently, the sexual abuser's contempt for America's judicial system (as well as certified democratic elections) does not concern you.

    Got it.
     
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    and again Orangeman Bad, would have saved you mucho words and made you seem more credible.
     
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    The guy can't catch a break.
    He's always toxic.


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    You are obviously unable to defend your messiah's tantrums that target American jurisprudence and its public servants and their families, nor his blatant contempt for certified democratic elections.

    Merely parroting your "Orangeman Bad" meme is not a defense.
     
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    LOL what a open ended question you ask. Sorry I don't care that Trump questions jurisprudence, it's his right, do you not support American rights?
     
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    No American has the right to throw tantrums in court, nor attack officers of the court, prosecution counsel, witnesses, nor jury members, not even the most self-righteous and immature.

    Attempted defenses are entirely proper within the legal venue.
     
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    Tantrums in court, oh Rachael Maddow is that you again? lol we're done.
     
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    Your reference escapes me.

    Do you believe that an American has the right to throw tantrums in court, attack officers of the court, prosecution counsel, witnesses, and jury members, or not?

    Is not the proper venue for defense within the trial?
     
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    The prosecution has been in the media since 2016
     
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    Yeah, I guess his $9k in court contempt fines is more fake news. :)
     
  25. hawgsalot

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    Now gag order violation outside of the courtroom is and inside the courtroom tantrum. And you guys really don't understand why you have zero credibility?

    Now back to court, the prosecution's witness, Attorney Keith Davidson, dealt the prosecution another blow in cross. First admitted he basically does this all the time with celebs. Getting cash out of those like Hulk Hogan, Charle Scheen, etc and in his words what Trump's payments were "Consideration", specifically saying not hush money. Consideration in legal terms is giving something of value and in return getting equal value through a contract. Consideration is also deemed a "legal expense". Consideration is legal and used often.
    We've been telling you, now a prosecution witness/attorney is telling you, it's been established as everyone already knows, is happening all the time, every day, and is not an unusual transaction. It's most f'ing definitely not illegal. It's an embarrassment the left wants to try to make a ledger violation out of this and take a former president trial over it. Karma's going to be a bitch for some of you.
     
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