NYPD arrests over 100 protesters at NYU, clears out anti-Israel encampment on campus

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  1. Steve N

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    Amazing in the current political climate:
     
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    Why didn't they arrive earlier:
     
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    What your daughter and her friends are doing makes perfect sense.
    Just imagine that during WWII some people would protest against Western Allies bombardment of German cities, calling Western Allies genocide murders, chanting ‘from the sea to the sea, 1000 year old Reich will be free’, not demanding that Germans will stop Holocaust and leave occupied countries – would you call these protesters German supporters? Of course not!

    I bet your daughter know facts, knows that Hamas is fundamental Muslim organization which promised never to make peace with Israel and plans to replace Israel with Muslim caliphate with Shariya Laws, were everyone will be free, especially women, gays, atheists, lesbian and apostates.

    For sure your daughter knows that Israel withdrew its military from Gaza in 2005 and from 2006 Hamas is sole ruler of Gaza and invested billions of dollars it received from UN, UE and Qatar exactly as Palestinian people wanted – not in education, not in hospitals, not in infrastructure, but in underground tunnels and arms.
     
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    People only have so many hours in the day? :roflol:

    They've had 40+ years to protest the mullahs in iran. Just as long for all the others I mentioned.

    But empty-headed liberals only protest the 'correct' things, aka 'white oppressors'.

    Your answer is a ****ing joke. :roflol:
     
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    Makes no sense, I am crystal clear. in the 30's people were overlooking antisemitism right in front of their eyes. There is zero moral equivalency in this situation, either you stand against racism, antisemitism or you don't. You can be attending rallies chanting end of isreal, to the river to the sea, etc, and not be antisemitic. This is what they were seeing in the 30s, hopefully the left won't allow it to get worse within their party.
     
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    I agree with the bolded/underlined. You indeed can attend rallies where some in attendance are chanting end of isreal, to the river to the sea, etc, and not necessarily be antisemitic. Some people are attending those rallies to protest Israel’s decision to allow hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to slowly starve to death. Others take things too far and call for the death of Jews and other horrendous things, etc. The fact that some people who are critical of the Israeli government are also anti-Semitic does not mean that all people who criticize the Israeli government are anti-Semitic.
     
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    Harassing and not allowing Jewish students to attend classes, keeping them out of the library, and restricting their movement on campus is "exactly" how it all started in WW2. The only difference was the venue. It sounds like someone needs to brush up on WW2 history.
     
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    When Hamas is stealing up to 70 percent of the food. I'm SICK and f-ing tired of the far left blaming Israel for what the murderous thugs Hamas are doing.
     
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    Ah, I don’t think what has occurred on college campuses over the last three weeks quite compares to the Brown Shirts nor the Kristallnacht
     
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    A few privileged brats on a campus are not going to sway a damn person. You think you know what you clearly don't know.
     
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    Wait a minute, the post before you compared campus events to those leading up to WWII and now they are “not going to sway a damn person?” How does that work?
     
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    I think they have already told Biden to take a hike and they will end the war when Hamas either surrenders or is defeated as it should be.
     
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    The Palistinians ARE HAMAS, the Palistinians ELECTED HAMAS. The Palistianians CHEERED the Oct attacks. They are PROTECTING HAMAS. When the Palistinians join with the IDF to defeat them and remove them then you can claim they are not HAMAS.
     
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    So there's nice people on both sides?
     
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    That the are chanting for death the Jews, banning of Jews, end of Jewish money and the end of Israel does. When will they go after the Jewish stores in New York?
     
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    I would only argue that protesters should be following the rules of LAWFUL protest only. Agree with the bulk of your post, good post!
     
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    So, what part of any of that justifies killing tens of thousands of innocents? Everyone knows Hamas is a groups twisted by hate. But the slaughter of tens of thousands is far worse than Hamas could ever dream of doing. So, how is wiping out a group like Hamas worth doing if in the process you kill more innocents than Hamas could ever possibly kill?

    It makes no ****ing sense. THAT is what everyone is protesting about. Nobody gives a **** about ideology, justification, etc. What they care about is keeping innocent people alive, and stopping oppression against innocent people.

    The way Israel is going about trying to defeat Hamas is only ensuring that more innocents die on both sides, and making peace impossible.
     
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    You seem to be the one interested in protesting mullahs. Have you?

    There is ALWAYS injustice occurring in the world. There is no need for protests 24/7. The reason protests must occur for Palestine is because they are running out of time, and change must occur now. You seem to be the one worried about 'white oppressors', whatever you are going on about. I never mentioned any such thing.
     
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    I disagree, they seem to be doing an outstanding job raising awareness, at the same time highlighting how deeply invested our government is in sucking Israel's d**k. I think this will especially sway younger voters, and destroy Biden's chances at reelection. Good riddance.
     
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    America elected Biden. Does that make you a Democrat? Are you a proud Biden supporter? Your assumption that all people are somehow represented by a group that has pretty much refused to allow elections to be gotten rid of seems extremely ignorant to me.

    Sure, some Palestinians cheered. Probably the ones that lost many family members to IDF bombs and bullets. Some Americans cheered when they see Israeli or American bombs falling on places that are killing innocent civilians as well. But the vast majority on both sides do not cheer such things.

    You seem to think Palestinians should support Israel. Why would anyone support a regime that is killing and oppressing them and stealing their lands? That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    First of all - kudos to Hamas propaganda - people believe in numbers supplied by Hamas like Hamas was the most trustful source in the world. And very smartly they don't distinguish between dead Hamas terrorists and civilians. And how they define a child? Hamas has tradition of sending children on suicide missions:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups

    I agree - Israel is going too tough on Gaza, but Israel is fighting Hamas similar way as the West fought in Afghanistan, Balkans or Iraq.

    But there is one simple fact which any normal human should know - if you started you protest again Israel after Hamas committed genocide murdering 1200 Israeli, raped and kidnapped women, old people and children, even before Israel responded with full force and you did not condemn Hamas - you don't care about civilians:
    https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/10/15/gaza-protest-harvard/

    https://www.columbiaspectator.com/n...y-groups-release-open-letter-joint-statement/

    So can you ask your daughter is she demands from Hamas the return hostages? If she demands if Hamas members who raped women will be punish? Can you ask her if she knows that Hamas is Muslim organization which promised never make peace with Israel and who want to create a Muslim state where everyone will be free according to Sharia Law, especially women, gays, lesbians, atheists and apostates?
     
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    :roflol:
    What EXACTLY does Christians Killed in Nigeria in 2009-2023 have to do with the Columbia Protests in 2024?
    (Another Epically-FAILED Threadjack? :smdh:.)
    Whataboutism, Much? LMFreakinAO!:bored:

    Now, back ON-TOPIC:
    Exactly...
    Well said, 3link...:flagus:
     
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    Has Gaza surrendered yet? Have the Gazians risen up in rebellion against their government and taken sides with the IDF yet?

    Because it saves your millions.

    It makes perfect sense as much as the total destruction of Germany and Japan in WW2. Surrender.
     
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    No, the US hasn’t been forceful, requests and recommends, if tomorrow morning Biden directly told Netanyahu the US would no longer support or aid their efforts, Netanyahu would cease. Question is if that is what Biden wants, but as I noted, as history shows, Israel will end action if the U.S. pressures them
     

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