Donald Trump held in contempt for violating gag order in New York trial

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  1. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    No it isn’t, it is American law in action. He will be found guilty or innocent according to due process.
     
  2. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Gag orders historically exist to protect the defendent from being convicted in the court of public opinion by prosecutors and judges among other before the trial ever starts. Not to keep the defendant from defending himself from such attacks.
     
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    The fact that there is even a trial on this BS is an affront to justice. The Gag order is amply demonstrative of this fact.
     
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    Gag orders also exist to prevent intimidation of witnesses, jurors, prosecutors and court staff.

    This is the reason for the gag order against Trump. If he could just keep his freaking mouth shut we wouldn't be here.

    How is calling the Judge "crooked" defending himself?

    If Trump (or his lawyers) honestly thought that the judge was biased they could enter evidence of it in court. They don't. Trump relies on the "court of public opinion" to make his baseless accusations.
     
  5. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    It's simple election interference. It should be treated as such. Of course the Biden DOJ won't prosecute these cretins, because, you know, they're the ones leading the charge to interfere in the first place..
     
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    And at the end of the day Don gets his 9k back plus interest and the appeals court censures Marchan and Bragg for wasting there time with this sack of horses spittle.
     
  7. Nwolfe35

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    Says the guy who is not a lawyer, not involved in the trial and has no idea what is going on.
     
  8. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Never before been used in this country for that purpose against a defendant.
     
  9. Cybred

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    No it doesn't.
     
  10. garyd

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    Laughable nonsense. I along with anyone else who has followed this crap at all on a day to day basis from the beginning knows exactly whats going. It isn't rocket science as they say. The pretensions of leftist professionals are so bizarre.
     
  11. Nwolfe35

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    You along WITH OTHER TRUMP SYCOPHANTS.

    Again, a lawyer (DA), a Judge and an appellate court, individuals with DECADES of study and practice of law, have said the charges are valid

    A grand jury saw the evidence and indicted him

    But somehow YOU "know better"

    It's kind of laughable.
     
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    Roger Stone, Donald Hill, Sam Bankman-Fried all had gag orders.
    Gag orders aren't only given to protect the defendant from being convicted in the court of public opinion. It's also given to not sway or intimidate jurors, prosecutors and judges....whether before or during a trial.
     
  13. Nwolfe35

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    At the end of the day you're completely wrong.
     
  14. garyd

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    The later is nonsense. At best a pretense. And none of them should have had gag orders. For one thing gag orders aren't going to prevent attempts to intimidate a jury or a prosecutor or a judge.
     
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    At the end of the day you are completely wrong. I'll take Turley et al over you.
     
  16. ECA

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    Gag orders do in fact prevent attempts to intimidate a jury or a prosecutor or a judge when the person isn't a petulant child and actually follows the rules set by the court. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  17. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, paying hush money to Karen and Stormy was election interference.
     
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    You never tire from advancing the funniest jokes... And we all appreciate your zeal. And while we're on the topic, if Karen and stormy were election interference, what was Tara? Or doesn't she count in your disciplined outrage??? LMAO.
     
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    It will by the person under the gag order...or the person under the gag order will face the consequences.

    Laws against murder don't prevent murders.

    Laws against things are not meant to prevent anything. They are there to determine the rules and what the consequences of violating them are.
     
  20. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More to the point, how is paying hush money to keep the voting public ignorant of adulterous sexual affairs not election interference? Especially given the panic mode Trump was in following the calls for him to step down as the GOP candidate after the release of the Access Hollywood tape. Remember, this was before it was understood that no manner of vulgar, illegal, immoral, unethical, incompetent, buffoonish behavior can deter The Following from voting for their cult leader.

    The Latest: Utah’s Lee calls on Trump to quit after apology
    https://apnews.com/general-news-uni...ction-events-705164ff0dc440418c40ec77e1facd8f
     
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  21. drluggit

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    LOL.. so, how does Biden paying a Billion dollars to Ukraine to keep a prosecutor from attacking the business his son sat on a board for ....... The you never tire of providing exactly the correct lens through which to view Biden... Awesome.
     
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    I am confused.

    Why do you keep pressing the same completely debunked story about Biden?

    Willfully ignorant or Willfully passing along BS?
     
  23. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Who and how was this public disclosure debunked? And why would you continue to try to push what you know is a false narrative that it has been?
     
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  24. Nwolfe35

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    Biden went to Ukraine, under the direction of the US Government and threatened to hold up US Loan Guarantees that Ukraine needed in order to access funds from the IMF. The reason is because the current Prosecutor General was NOT investigating corruption.

    So almost everything you tried to pass off in your post was a lie.

    I have detailed it numerous times in this forum.
     
  25. garyd

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    No they don't most jury tampering is behind the scenes ditto with judges and prosecutors. Any judge who can be intimidated by people telling the truth about their background which is all Trump has done shouldn't be a judge anyway.
     

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