Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...(Mod Warning)

Bbbut what about George Soros? Are you righties still really citing to this crap?

 

My theory? The court addressed the issue! You can’t reason with some people.

NB he wasn’t president at the time he paid off Daniels. How could it even be argued that it was a presidential duties? It was part of his campaign, however.

Talk about misconstruing things. What you cited has more to do with immunity than anything else.

 

For the umpteenth time, Bragg is not charging the Orange Diaper with a federal crime and he doesn’t have to “prove” that he violated any. He has to prove that the Orange Wart falsified his records because he believed that he was trying to hide his “crime”. You’ve been told this dozens of times and you refuse to listen. Quit guzzling the Orange koolaid.

 

Why even bother to advise some of these guys what the law is if they’re not going to even read the stuff because they’re partisan? Sheesh.

 

Trump falsified his records to hide what he believed to be violations of the law. Yes, folks…it’s that simple.

 

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When a case falls under concurrent jurisdiction, both the state and the federal government can prosecute the crime based on their own laws1

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Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States, is facing prosecution in New York for several charges1. Here are the key details:

• Case Name: The People of the State of New York v. Donald J. Trump1.
• Charges: Trump faces 34 felony charges of falsifying business records with the intent to commit or conceal other crimes1.
• Details of the Charges: The charges relate to payments made to pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels to ensure her silence about an earlier alleged affair between them1. Trump is accused of falsifying these business records with the intent to violate federal campaign finance limits, unlawfully influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, and commit tax fraud1.
• Potential Sentence: The charges carry a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison if Trump is convicted on five or more counts

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Yes, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg did use a grand jury to indict former President Donald Trump12. The grand jury voted to indict Trump on felony charges of falsifying business records3

The misdemeanor becomes a felony when committed in conjunction with another crime.

You've already posted this nonsense many times. It's still nonsense.

OK, that's why they are having a trial.

 

Bbbut he can’t prosecute federal crimes! George Soros bribed the grand jury, the prosecutors, judge and the jury! The law is what the RW says it is and not the courts!

 

That "the trial IS taking place and will reach a conclusion" isnt an argument. No one disagrees.

 

I quoted the law.

 

Wow you must not be able to refute what I posted.

 

But, since you persist in trying to extirpate the trial it seemed necessary to point it out and make it clear.

 

Where?

 

What you posted is not remotely an accurate description of the law. If you posted that toads had become sentient and were taking over the world, we need not “refute” it. There’s no need to do so with your pretend legal analysis either. And it’s been debunked dozens of times anyway.

 

So what? Did Trump falsify his records to hide what he believed to be crimes?

 

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In the definitions section of
Section 17-100 - Definitions, N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-100 | Casetext Search + Citator
It states
4. The term "public officer" as used in this article shall be deemed to apply to any person who holds an elective or appointive office of the state, separate authority or any political subdivision of the state with authority to supervise other personnel within such subdivisions. The term "public employee" shall be deemed to apply to all other personnel of the state or such authorities or subdivisions.

Doesnt apply to Federal elections. Like I said
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"The Potential Object Offenses: New York Election Law"

"This brings us to the final potential object offense, and the one that seems to bear the most weight in Bragg’s presentation of the case so far: New York Election Law § 17-152, a misdemeanor offense that prohibits “conspir[ing] to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.” Trump has sought to challenge Bragg’s use of this statute as well, arguing that it applies only to state and local elections, rather than presidential elections—which Merchan rejected. The former president likewise argued in federal court that FECA preempts § 17-152 in federal elections, but Judge Hellerstein held this to be “without merit.”

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/charting-the-legal-theory-behind-people-v.-trump#:~:text=This brings us to the,public office by unlawful means.”

 

I cited the federal decision to @Bluesguy . According to his learned opinion? The federal decision was “wrong” because of things and stuff. And of course Judge Merchan is “wrong” too. So many stupid lawyers! So many stupid judges! They are so corrupt and stupid! Have we seen them drooling yet?

 

I love how you conservative keyboard Perry Masons are now making claims that he cant b tried in state court, yet, HE IS !!!!!

 

No. And dont insist I provide quotes of the law, and then dash off to your next topic when I do.

 

Yes, we are all fully aware that the judge rejected the claim NY election law only applies to NY state and local elections. Did you have a point or just a belief that posting it 4 times gives more credibility than only posting once?

 

Why not? If you think that it’s the law, you surely have a basis for it that you can link to.

 

You should talk to your fellow RW posters about repetition.

 

LOLOL. Its right there at the top of my post you didnt read twice.
Section 17-100 - Definitions, N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-100 | Casetext Search + Citator

UNLIKE YOU WHO

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Do a google search then. The federal decision is publicly available.

That’s a definition. Again, so what? Did Trump believe that he was falsifying his records to hide what he believed was a crime. He doesn’t have to prove an underlying crime, which is the error you’re continually making.

 

Stop whining and face the reality that your wishful thinking has somehow usurped 2 judges rulings.