Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

A simple DNA test.

 

Wouldn't that be Section 1 of the 14th Amendment? Or is it the 4th?

 

Not if she has a better lawyer.

 

Are you speaking from experience? I'm just curious.

 

No need to wait:

https://www.forbes.com/health/womens-health/paternity-test-while-pregnant/

 

Fine, point taken, but is that really a logical argument against anything I said in my post?

 

My view is that the Constitution is used and abused according to political whims, and who appointed got on to SCOTUS and at whose hand. I am no fan of a SCOTUS which creates Law and illogically justifies it, obscures it in some bizarre way as being sourced in the 'Constitution.' That goes equally on guns and abortion and free speech.

 

Not all pro-life people are religious, much less religious zealots. Not all pro-choice people are non-religious.

 

You would be free to purchase a gun in the US. That doesn't mean that you would be free to possess that gun in Australia. Just like you can buy pot in NM but can't take that pot back to Texas.

 

So since you believe that Roe is not solidly based on the constitution (I whole heartedly disagree), then you can explain why all three Trump appointed justices claimed in their hearings that Roe was “settled law”.

But understand that now with Roe, you can be forced to have medical procedures against your will. Roe (in a basic sense) was that an individual had a right to “privacy” in their own body. In overturning that, you no longer have that right. Remember those covid vaccines, their back on the table as a possible requirement now….based on this ruling, “your body your right” is out the door.

 

Ok….so now that you have no right to privacy in your own body, prepare for the next round of vaccines being mandatory.

 

The state does hold some accountability if it is not making long acting reliable reversible contraception affordable

 

What does that have to do with anything I've said? You don't even know what my stance is on abortion nor vaccines.

 

And that is the rub isn’t it? What degree of “danger” does this apply? I mean on one end there is potential danger inherent in every pregnancy on the other are women in life threatening straights current being denied care

Where is the line?

 

You can get free condoms in Texas. Is that affordable enough?

 

“Religion” doesnt matter in your support of Abortion. But for 90%, it is the main driver. You may be correct, for a lot it may not be a religious decision, but the decision they wanted, and got is now a Pandora’s box for them. You are no setting precedent that the government now can control a man’s body also. Now a man can be forced to get a vaccine. Thats not some doomsday prediction, its a plain and simple fact that if their is a new variant of covid, the government now has the right to force you to get a vaccine. Thats just a fact

 

Or, maybe he needed to be more responsible when having sex and make sure he protected himself because he is not the one that will carry a child.
My, My what a novel concept. Males being held responsible.
Guess the percentage of males that pay child support or look it up.

 

Tell me what it was like laying on the birthing table after the doctor slapped your butt.

I can call any living human being a person it is you who must bastardized the langage trying to support the killing of unborn babies not me.

per·son
/ˈpərs(ə)n/
noun

1. 1.
   a human being regarded as an individual.

 

Which can kill the child and certainly does not refute what I posted,

The baby in the womb is NEVER a part of the woman's body the mother and child are entirely separate human beings as nature designed so that the baby could survive.

WOW someone never studied biology.

 

It's a natural consequence of sexual intercourse and no one forced her.

What possible reason would trump the life of the child? What view is more ethical and moral than allowing the baby to live and be adopted or put in the custody of the father?

Reminder this is about THIS case and your remark to which I responded was about THIS case.

 

So if I kill you accidentally I am not responsible even if I knew the act in which I was engaging had a remote possiblity of doing so?

 

Not if the father is taking responsibility. Not if another couple is begging to adopt the baby.

 

I think it’s more like the Right to Lifers took a while to find him.

 

Well, in this case, it’s fairly obvious that the father, not only did not take responsibility, but he allowed himself to be the front man for her legal persecution by a well funded extremist right wing political group.

Your imaginary “other couple” does not exist and is not a party to this proceeding

 

Thanks for underscoring my point in relation to lack of knowledge about placental interaction. If the two WERE “completely separate” how is it possible for DNA tests done on the mother’s blood show the DNA of the baby. How does teratogenesis occur if the two are truly separate? Why does a pregnant woman increase her respiratory rate if not to blow off extra CO2?

https://academic.oup.com/bjaed/article/15/2/84/248526#

further links on the functioning of the placenta

https://embryology.med.unsw.edu.au/embryology/index.php?title=+Special:Search&search=Placenta&go=Go