Servants Of Israel

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Have you noticed the Servants of Hamas?

    Pro-Palestinian protesters are backed by a surprising source: Biden’s biggest donors.
     
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    Yes, It is true of everyone.
     
  3. Jolly Penguin

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    How so? What are you referring to?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm referring to Vietnam, where Canada gave safe harbor to draft dodgers.
     
  5. Jolly Penguin

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    Oh. I thought you meant more recently.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but this isn't like Ukraine where innocent people are targeted. The IDF goes out of its way to prevent harm to innocent people. But, yes some die in any war whether targeted or not. So the bigger picture is why is there a war? Doesn't Israel have a right to defend itself from Hamas? The Jews have been defending themselves from the entire world since time immemorial. What would you do in their shoes? Interfering with Israel's right of self defense is also a problem in my view and the view of most people. The results are tragic but they are what they are. The smart path is to help Israel finish this war as soon as possible. That will save lives.
     
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    I am not convinced of that, especially after than incident where they killed the escaped hostages trying to surrender to them.

    That I agree with. Yes, Israel does have the right to defend itself.

    Sure, but there is a difference between protecting yourself and attacking others. And there is a difference between hunting Hamas and indiscriminately killing palestinians.
    The analogy of blowing up a school along with all the students to take out a school shooter does seem apt here.

    It depends on how it is done. And the USA does become complicit when it funds the effort while seeing how it is being done.
     
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    You can believe that if you like. I don't.

    Every person killed by the IDF results from hunting and killing Hamas. Tragic that others suffer from it. As to the school, I don't know the details. But Hamas likes to inhabit and store equipment in buildings they think nobody will attack. They had their headquarters in a hospital not that long ago.

    I see nothing wrong with how it is being done. The IDF sends pamphlets warning of attacks so people can get out of the way. No other army in the world does that.
     
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    The IDF are treating palestinians like cattle, herding them around like lambs to the slaughter. This inhumane behaviour, treating palestinian women and children as sub human should not be tolerated by western leaders but sadly, all our leaders are complicit in this barbarism.
     
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    I can believe I'm not convinced of your claim? Ok. Thanks for that.

    You can believe that if you like. I don't.
     
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  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The facts say otherwise Bill. See if you can find the book written by one of the men onboard the vessel. ERASING THE LIBERTY by Phillip F. Tourney. It was a deliberate attack on a ship armed only with 50 cal guns fore and aft.

    The Canadians and the Brits attack our Constitution? Nonsense. Our elected Representatives in Congress passed the most unconstitutional USA Patriot Act, not the Brits or the Canadians. That derived from the staged events at WTC, and for the informed, Israeli fingerprints were all over those events. They also gave us DHS, headed up by the dual Israeli/US citizen Michael Chertoff.

    AIPAC controls the federal government, and as we've seen lately, 30 state governments. Bibi Abbott in Texas just urinated on the First Amendment, in accordance with AIPAC demands.

    The Unpatriot Act rendered the Fourth Amendment invalid 20 years ago, and the bill passed in the House last week renders the First Amendment invalid. Welcome to the United States of Israel.

    Voltaire noted that if you want to find out who rules over you, simply find out who you may not criticize. US citizens are punished for criticizing Israel.
     
  12. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I really don't care about that, because I know that ADL is funding the Jewish side. All that is trivial.

    What I care about is the numerous assaults on the US Constitution and its principles by Israeli inspired deception. DHS and TSA, from Israel with Love. The Unpatriot Act and the recent Anti Semitism Act by the House last week. I took an oath 50 years ago to protect and defend the document from enemies both foreign and domestic.

    Under treasonous pressure from AIPAC, our elected Servants Of Israel have passed numerous anti-American illegitimate legislative acts. You might be able to kiss their hand and look the other way, but I cannot.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It turned out the draft dodgers were right as rain. The Jew Daniel Ellsberg showed that by stealing the Pentagon Papers.

    Ironically, the Jew Russ Feingold was the only man in the senate honoring his oath of office by voting against the Unpatriot Act.

    Those protesting the Israeli state genocide in Gaza today have the moral high ground just as the protesters against our crimes in Vietnam did.
     
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    You're blaming the Jews for the Patriot Act?

    It would make more sense to me to hold our elected representatives accountable for that.
     
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    Evading the draft was and still is illegal.
     
  16. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because the vast preponderance of the evidence and facts surrounding 9/11 have Israeli fingerprints all over them, with the Dancing Israelis in NJ being just a wee tiny piece with good insight, it is clear that the largest single player in the conspiracy was Israel and its agents within the Pentagon like Dov Zakheim.

    Because the Patriot Act was the direct result of the events of 9/11 and the subsequent Anthrax attacks, and because the creation of DHS was the direct result of those events, I'm blaming Israeli influence for those assaults on the US Constitution. You say "the Jews", I prefer to distinguish between the Jewish People and their criminal government in Tel Aviv just as I distinguish between the American People and their criminal government in Washington DC.

    It is interesting that a dual Israeli/American citizen, a Jew Michael Chertoff was the first head of the authoritarian DHS.

    If you're not aware of all those connections Zorro, it simply means you're uninformed.
     
  17. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Silly statement Bill. We both know the draft no longer exists.

    Evading the draft WAS illegal, and a form of civil disobedience, a very American practice. Our invasion of Vietnam was military aggression (that's also illegal) just as our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and so many more.
     
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    So you blame "The Jews" for 9/11, yea gads!
     
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    Activists Involved in Columbia Protests Trained in Cuba for Years

    Anti-Israel activists behind Columbia University protests trained in Cuba for years
    'Cuban intelligence has spent decades inciting radical leftist organizations to spread hatred toward the United States and Israel'

    The issue is never the issue,
    The issue is always the revolution.

    The same folks who hate the Jews, hate us.
    They may start their violence and killing with the Jews, but they will not stop with the Jews. The time to draw the line is when they go after the Jews, not after their lusts are enflamed as they gorge on the blood of the Jews.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not alone Zorro. Any person with a curious and open mind will reach the same conclusion IF they examine all the known facts and evidence.

    Citizen investigators (not the government) have assembled facts from many places including Social Security Death Index. The Official Conspiracy Theory you seem to embrace fails at every turn. It is contradicted by countless facts and evidence.

    Read the works of Christopher Bollyn, Michael Ruppert, David Griffin and many more. The official story is a huge falsehood in the Goebbels tradition.
     
  21. Zorro

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    Facts aren't established by handwaving, but you are nearly alone.

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    1 in 5 agree with you
    4 in 5 agree with me.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've never followed the herd Zorro. I'm an independent critical thinker, not a follower of Fauci or Netanyahu herds.
     
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    So if the draft was reinstated it wouldn't be illegal to evade it?
     
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    Amen.
     
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    Way back in the early days of the Republic, SCOTUS and lower court decisions lik Norton v. Shelby 118US425 made it clear that no citizen has an obligation to obey unconstitutional legislation. "An unconstitutional act is not law. It affords no protection. It creates no office; it is legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed."

    Bastiat observed that "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law."
     

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