Judge Gives Trump Final Warning: Jail Is Next

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Almost as bad as the statement he got fined today for huh. Glad we agree the dumbassery of this court knows no bounds. What a joke.
     
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    Just raise the Fine for each violation to $1 Million...
    See if that will shut up that Bloated Orange Piece of Excrement...
     
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    Oh, but he might still off himself... JUST LIKE Epstein did.... wink,wink,nudge,nudge,saynomore. And yes, we can't allow fascists to have a platform, so we should just just jail them. The voters who support them will thank us later, it's for the good of the nation after all... to save democracy... amirite?
     
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    He might, at that, when he loses the election.

    What does "wink,wink,nudge,nudge,saynomore" mean ?
    Are you somehow expressing opposition to due process and the rule of law ? What is "good for the nation" is following the rules.
     
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  5. Hey Now

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    He is a viceral coward, no way he wants to meet courthouse Bubba :)
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if he is convicted on the Jan6th charges he could:

    The 14th Amendment, disqualifies people who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” after taking an oath to support the Constitution.
     
  7. LiveUninhibited

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    I think they would do that, i.e. put him in jail for contempt. In part, it's because this isn't a political process at all. He may be getting some soft handling for his background, but a court will put him in jail for contempt if necessary, regardless of political benefit or harm.
     
  8. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It works the same way in the mafia. The like minded respect you more if you do time.
     
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  9. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But the problem with jailing him is that for his followers, it WOULD make it political. I think the judge knows this and he also knows it would martyr him in this trial.

    I think the judge realizes this, which is why he just keeps fining him the maximium of $1k per instance and he knows that wont dent Trump even a little bit. For those of us who see this for what it is, we realize that this isn't political, but the righties honestly think this is political persecution because they refuse to see Trump as anything but a martyr for them. They really believe that he is them, and that they are him. Its the old adage: "The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist."
     
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  10. Arkanis

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    If you agree with Trump's attitude, you agree that a defendant can intimidate a prosecution witness in his trial.

    Is that what you want?
     
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    I think the judge is being extra careful to make sure he can justify what he does, but he will follow the law. The law does not allow witness intimidation. The $1K per instance is a matter of giving fair warning, rather than going from nothing to a serious step like jail. I think the most recent violations occured prior to him threatening jail time, but he has now said that violations in the future will result in jail time. I expect that, if the violation is definite and not on the lines, he will put him in jail. Perhaps not for long, but some.
     
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    The judge put himself in a box. At this point he won't have much choice but to jail him. That will help Trump and hurt the prosecution in a big way. We shall see if he has the nerve to do it. One thing we must all understand is that the basis of political prosecution is politics.
     
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    There isn't a law that says Trump cannot talk. In fact the constitution says he can. The judge is not avove the constitution.
     
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    Has any judge anywhere in the US ever issued a gag order? Yes or no?

    If yes, why didn’t you care before your lord was indicted?
     
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    For sure. But the way the system works is this. The judge has the power to issue a gag order, even an unconstitutional one. It has to be obeyed and then straightened out after the trial in appellate court. So the judge is within his rights to jail him if he has the nerve to do it.

    Understand that the whole point of this prosecution is to hurt Trump's candidacy. The prosecutors don't really care what the verdict is. They care that they can hurt his campaign before the election. The fly in the ointment is that the public is on to them and the prosecution is helping Trump. Jailing him would help him a lot politically. The judge made a mistake. The smart move on his part would be to gag everybody and amend the order to release people to talk about things that don't occur in the trial. Then the order would be constitutional and would neither help nor hurt Trump but perhaps save some of the judge's credibility. Trump is going say what he wants to say no matter what the judge does. We know that.
     
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    The criminal vote, something the DNC overlooked ;)
     
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    I really wish he would, but that just martyrs him more for the Trumpians......
     
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    And yet what the GOP is now openly courting . . . not that this is new.
     
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    So? Have I ever said anything other than Politicians are corrupt? My point is, this country has many criminals and far more that idolize them, See rap :)
     
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    Obviously incorrect. The years of work to make it happen occurred mostly when it was unknown whether he would be the nominee again. One would think they wouldn't re-choose the loser, let alone one facing charges, but republicans work in mysterious ways.
     
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    If the rule of law were being applied, this trial wouldn't be happening.

    As to the topic, putting Trump in jail will boost his poll numbers. So, FAFO.
     
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    Thanks for being honest about the purpose of the trial.

    Although, a conviction won't stop him from running. Winning maybe, but not running.
     
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    Yes. And the ones doing so here are the Trump supporters. I'm glad we agree.
     
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    Or, it could motivate those undecided voters to vote for him.

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    I think you are suffering from some partisan naivete. What could be more obvious than the political nature of this prosecution or the one in Georgia for a fraud that defrauded nobody.
     

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