Judge Gives Trump Final Warning: Jail Is Next

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Joe, your logic is........well, lacking.
    The fact that Trump is running for President doesn't and shouldn't matter at all. You do know that what you're saying is that given the fact he's running for President means he's above the law. You also SHOULD know that being above the law is the one and only reason Trump IS running for President. Yes, Trump is from NY and since I am too I can tell you he was always considered a joke. A loudmouth with bad taste (gold on everything). He was also a joke as a businessman. The biggest joke about him was having 2 casinos going bankrupt.
    Is the trial politically motivated? Sure, it's about illegal use of campaign funds.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That does not show he would gain support if convicted — which is what you stated. Look up polls and get back with me when you can support your words
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tribe? Yes, Trump has followers, strong and loyal followers, true patriots. What does Biden have? He has nothing because the only reason people would vote for him is because libs were ordered to hate Trump. Now that's cult behavior.

    Anyway, this whole tribe, sect or cult thing all started with the left and their tearful adoration of Obama. This is yet another thing the left criticizes the right for when they already exhibited the same behavior in spades. How quickly the left forgets.
     
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    Is that your considered legal opinion?

    From what law school did you graduate?
     
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    Do you understand WHY trump has a gig order ? Trump has power to harm others, Cohen isn’t saying anything new, and he's not threatening anyone. So under what grounds should Cohen be gaged ?

    You understand WHY trump is being fined is because he, thru his posts and thru is access to the media, can influence the witness’ and the jury. There is a reason why a judge sits in a trial, and that is to keep things far for both the prosecution, and the defendant.
     
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    Im pointing out the facts. What’s fascist about applying the law equally ?
     
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    Why haven't they tried an actual ball gag? That would be hilarious.
     
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    You misspelled “due process “. Any time righties don’t like it when the law is against them they run to crying “fascist” and “politically motivated” and “witch hunt”.

    It is totally inconceivable to them that it IS possible that their icon is a felon and a sociopath.

    Of course, that would reflect badly on them. After all, who would want to admit they supported a criminal and a sociopath, twice. Much easier to believe their boy lost because of cheating by the opposition.

    Their objections to Orange being prosecuted basically admits he is a criminal but should be let off because “no one else” was prosecuted for the same crimes.
     
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    I doubt it.
    BUT if they do, the giggling fools the MSM will trot out on video will further estrange themselves from the "American normal".
    Trump wins again by letting the haters into the spotlight where they can show America what knee slapping fools they really are.
    I am curious as to Trump's SS federal protection vs state authority given that "accidental death" in prison is a thinly veiled threat that if successful would probably guarantee Biden the White House. I doubt state authorities can disarm federal guards.
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    The support of the majority of voters.

    You'd have a valid comparable if Obama had been criminally charged and still enjoyed the support of a large swath of Liberals.

    But that didn't happen.

    Obama isn't a criminal, Trump is.
     
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    They should and I hope the do jail him. If fools think he's a martyr, so be it. That's why they're fools. On the contrary, it isn't bad for America. It's what America is about, or should be. The rule of law. To think it makes is look like a third world "craphole" you should maybe rethink what you think America should be.
    We didn't jail Nixon because he actually was the President at the time (which saved Trump with Mueller), wasn't charged and never had a trial. He also was pardoned by Ford. Trump is not President. Trump is a citizen just like you and me.
     
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    Even when he loses three civil suits, ordered to pay over $500 million in restitution and four more criminal suits for 2024, Trump is still winning for you.

    I say he's having the worst time of his life.

    Then we're both happy.

    It's wonderful.
     
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    The right wing thinking is completely warped!!
    What is the "hypocrisy" if Cohen trashes the Defendant and Trump trashing witnesses (Cohen) the judge and court officials!!!! Tell me, who would/should be more intimidated? Trump with millions of sycophants and Secret Service or Cohen, the judge and other court officials? You don't think he's pulling intimidation tactics?
     
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    You are correct in that we can't allow fascists to run the country.......like Trump.
     
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    Monty Python reference.
     
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    How will it help Trump and hurt the prosecution?
     
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    Ok then he won't jump up 5 points in polls. Why? Because it's not "democrats" putting him in jail. Or is anyone who opposes his will automatically a "democrat"?
     
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    It's not but the you should understand that the point of Trump's candidacy was to avoid these prosecutions that he knew were coming. He knew he broke the law. All of this is theater so he can pardon himself.
     
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    "True patriots" to whom or what? You mean "loyalists".... people blindly loyal to a criminal no matter what he does. "True Patriots" don't smash in the doors to the Capitol to stop a Constitutionally required election process illegally. They use lawful methods. They don't drive Congressmen out in fear. They don't chant "hang Mike Pence". They don't prop up "alternative" and illegal "electors".

    There is nothing patriotic about the Trump thug gang.
     
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    Yeah, they do.
    No, they want to prove no one is above the law.
    The portion of the public that think that are fools
    No, it won't
    Then off to jail he goes. That's the way the law works. You obviously think Trump is above the law for some unknown reason.
    Then you shouldn't have a problem with any of this.
     
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    What I find shocking is that the majority (mostly Democrats) is failing to find a way to stop him from running, and we have no law that says if a candidate is indicted and the evidence of a crime is material, the candidate cannot run for any office THIS TIME but must clear his/her name first and run next time if they choose. SOME MEANS of stopping him from running should be on the books.
     
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    The prosecution of Hunter Biden
     
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    Ok, so you obviously don't understand the intimidation factor to what Trump says and is missing from Cohen's comments and you also don't want to acknowledge the lifetime of delay, delay, delay tactics that Trump employs that have ruined people that don't have the financial resources that Trump has. A lifetime of legal bullshit to keep from paying his bills and putting the "little" guys out of business.
    He is getting a fair trial.
     
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    Gag orders are for the defendant protection... not the courts

    Merchan is trying to deny the constitutional #1 freedom of speech to an American citizen to protect himself from attacks from the witnesses...while Cohen had been cashing in on the ex-president’s hush money trial by discussing the case on nightly TikTok livestreams... How much money is this trial generating for Merchan's daughter?

    https://nypost.com/2024/04/30/us-ne...tiktok-commentary-could-be-a-problem-experts/
     
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    That's a statement you're going to have to back up with some kind of proof to be believed.
     
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