New poll: 57% of Americans say Trump’s alleged crimes are ‘serious’

Yes- extremely unwise. Face it - from election night thru Inauguration Day the guy was 100% off his rocker. And no, watching on TV, and doin nothing, while everybody close to him told him otherwise, is not a crime. But he has been indicted on other crimes (real crimes), and he should face trial.

 

All kinds of sordid questions relating to the affair were asked . Good grief that the point eludes .. and your comparison not relevant at all to that point ...which is the witch hunt - and immateriality and relevance of such questions .. questions that never should have been allowed. Get on page .. way off in la la land.

 

and these people already know about Trump's court battles. Let's face it, you're clinging to hope, just as you have been for about 8 years.

 

LOL. Trump is ahead in swing states by much more than a voter here and a voter there.

 

New poll: 57% of Americans say Trump’s alleged crimes are ‘serious’

Yes propaganda works with the uninformed. That is why we see so much of it.

 

Inauguration Day 2020 saw the peaceful transition of power. Unlike 2016 inauguration day of violent riots across DC.
AND inciting insurrection IS NOT one of the crimes he is charged with.

 

Sure after January 6th.. How disingenuous!

 

Whether he had an affair with his employee Monica Lewinsky was relevant to a trial of an employer charged with sexual harassment of another employee. AND the details of the affair became relevant in the perjury case against Clinton as he testified under oath in court, wagging his finger, defiantly proclaiming "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinski". WHILE whether Trump had an affair with Stormy is irrelevant to a false business records case, and we will likely get all the sordid details regarding Stormy today in court.

 

????? How so?

 

What "hope" would that be?

 

With Trump far ahead in most all swing states, the left are clinging to the hope that a Trump conviction would actually turn the tide in the election.

 

You said "you're clinging to hope". I was pointing out that surveys of "adults" as opposed to registered voters or likely voters arent very helpful in predicting elections. And likely thats why those conducting the poll likely on the "left", chose that classification instead. Adult criminals, drug addicts, illegal aliens, pimps and hoes etc likely pick Biden in such surveys and are not "registerd voters" or "likely voters"

 

How many inches of cigar is absolutely not relevant to sexual harassment -- but the issue relevance to white water..

"In January 1998, Tripp discovered that Lewinsky had sworn an affidavit in the Paula Jones case, denying a relationship with Clinton. She delivered tapes to Ken Starr, the independent counsel who was investigating Clinton on other matters, including the Whitewater scandal"

Lewinsky affair has ZERO relevance to white water .. Starr then had no business in doing anything with this information .. should have given the tapes back to Tripp.

Do you understand that the Special Prosecutor has "Special Powers" .. including the ability to violate all your constitutional rights - the rules of Justice .. and so on ? Do you understand further that this ability to violate is given ONLY on the basis of something extremely threatening to the Nation .. this the equivalent of invoking martial law .. needing to meet the same high bar ?

Sorry Dixon .. some woman claiming sexual harassment does not meet that bar .. and so should never have been dealt with by Starr -- as was out of scope .. did not have anything to do with White-Water..

Second -- in terms of a sexual harassment suit by a Gold Digger against the President .. .. in a normal trial .. the prosecution does not get to violate the right to privacy for the purposes of political embarassment . If the relationship was brought up by the prosecution - the prosecution must establish "WHY" = past sexual harassment --- Thus as soon as it is established that the relationship -- what ever that relationship was - was consensual .. that there was no harassment of any kind .. no coercion .. anything further is no longer material .. Prosecution -- upon asking questions relating further to intimate details of the relationship are ruled immaterial .. and frankly None of the Court's Business.

This was a clown show ... the violations of the principles of Justice - Judicial process - constitutional rights and freedoms -- on the basis of out of scope issues which may have been criminal but sorry .. Out of Scope - not material to white water or to Russian Collusion = illegitimacy of authority .. is exactly the same problem in both cases.

It is like if you are pulled over for a DUI Check .. they search your car and find a pound of cocaine .. but the cocaine is inadmissible because of illegal search .. and so you walk - illegitimacy of authority

 

Thats why it never came up in any of the cases.

????? The depth of the cigar didnt come up in the Whitewater case, the Paula Jones sexual harassment OR the perjury case, silly.

 

Dude .. can't believe you just said that "cigar inches" -- when it was explained to you previously that this meant "intimate details" .. something that was again covered in post you are responding to .. do you have no concept of Sarcasm - .. and what part of .. this was already explained to you once .. did you not get the first go round in your projective diatribe - "Silly" ?!

Clearly baby steps are in order .. Do you understand the right to privacy .. that this is a right (check) good , Do you understand that Slick Willy's privacy was violated (check) good -- hope we have gotten this far in any case .. last question I will not answer for you ... 1) Do you agree with this violation . if so why do you think it is justified to remove the limitations on Gov't power in this instance .. and allow the state to violate the founding principle - essential liberty of this poor individual .. going into intimate details of the relationship .. such as but not including .. number of inches of cigar ..

Then tell us how we knew about the cigar to begin with -- and explain the violation of the legitimacy of the special council via completely out of scope.

Do you understand that the Special Council has "special powers" -- ? Do you agree in general with removing the limits to Gov't power ? and do you agree on the basis of fallacious utilitarianism .. as per the collectivist woke cancel culture joke .. and if not do tell us on what basis .. have we ingested such hatred for the founding principle .. as is so common these days given folks now accept such violations as normal .. as they happen so often as we devolve into a security state.

 

Probably because I never did and you are fully aware that I did not. While YOU

DIG DEEP for SOME remaining shred of integrity.

 

I actually think the right knows very little about Trump’s court battles or the truth and scope of his January 6th involvement. The rightist propaganda coverage - little or none.

 

LOL. I actually think you guys on the left made most of it up because you hate Trump so badly and want to get him.

 

It's completely relevant. It's part of the foundation of the case.

Cohen pays off Daniels to keep quiet about the affair. This is an "in kind" campaign contribution. Cohen is eventually found guilty of that and lying about it.

Trump repays Cohen with 12 payments listed as "Retainer" when, in fact, it is NOT a retainer. This is the charge of "False Business Reports". The fact that the false business reports were made in an attempt to cover up the crime that Cohen confessed to ups it from a misdemeanor to a felony.

So the affair is very relevant.

 

????? AND whether he did or did not have an affair the above remains the same. Paying her to keep quiet about a fabricated affair or an actual affair makes no difference in your issues above. Irrelevant to the case. Trump paid the doorman at Trump tower to shut up about an allegation of a love child with the housekeeper, even though the allegation was false. Truth or falsity makes no difference in allegations of violating campaign finance law or business records laws. AND Cohen wasnt "found" guilty by a court and he instead plead guilty without need for a trial. Im sure the FBI suggested he plead guilty or the FBI, CIA, NSA, IRS etc would DESTROY him.

 

I have a law degree and retired last year with lots of spare time. Have read more about all the cases than most. Read and watched the opinions of practicing attorneys on the cases. Know more about the background of Pomerantz then Colangelo prosecuting the case. And I can tell many here on the left dont know anything about the basic law of the case.

 

You didn’t even specify what case you’re talking about

 

Always remember: Yahoo News = MSM = Fake News

 

Well, here on this thread we are speaking of the Stormy case brought by Bragg and "all" the cases is in reference to Jack Smiths DC and Florida cases and Fannie in Fulton County Georgia. Not sure of your point. Did you have one?

 

You mentioned one case, now it’s 3. All are different with differing circumstances