Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

This always cracks me up. For conservatives, if the baby is conceived it is a “sacred human life”, and it must be born. But the second that baby is born, and they get shot, thats apparently OK, because “the 2nd amendment”…

 

So your saying that the entirety of the process the man has complete control over the womans body ?

HE gets to make decisions about her body ?

Your wife is a lucky lady ;

 

How do you contort your logic into believing this crap?

 

Or it could be coercive control - he is definitely applying reproductive coercion and may have even used “stealthing”

 

Wanting to control a woman is his problem.

 

How do you contort your logic to not understand?

 

Name one person who says it's ok for a baby to be shot. I won't hold my breath in anticipation.

 

Because everything you read from the right shows intense concern for the unborn and zero concern for the born. Even in this thread we have those advocating for no medical intervention especially as most have ignored the possibility she may be getting an abortion due to a medical issue, and also grizzled loudly about child support. None have acknowledged this could be coercive control as a part of domestic violence and at the core is “blame the woman for being a slut and wanting an abortion “

 

The NRA and all the hoplophiles on this board who scream endlessly about “interferrin’ with ma rights” every time any form of gun legislation is proposed

 

Has there been any inkling of a hint that that is happening? I must have missed it. Or, did you make that up to support your position?
Again, show me where anyone supports shooting a baby.

 

So if I support freedom of the press, then I you think that I must support child pornography?

 

Strawman fallacy

I have debated for years over this and it is always amazing to me that Americans, esp American hoplophiles can so easily dismiss child deaths. And yes I would think you support child pornography if you are arguing for zero restrictions on “freedom of the press” and it is interesting because that too has recently come up on this board and yes there were those advocating for zero restrictions on “the first amendment”

 

That is messed up! that should carry severe consequences.

 

In some jurisdictions it is considered rape. But I think it is highly probable that coercive control is in play here otherwise he could have simply persuaded the woman to continue with the pregnancy. If she was trying to escape domestic violence then she would not want to continue a pregnancy that would tie her further to him

 

Freedom to own a gun in no way means freedom to shoot an innocent person. No one has advocated that. No one has advocated for zero restrictions on how people use their guns. No one has dismissed child deaths. In fact, just the opposite. The right has advocated much harsher penalties for murderers while the left has made many laws that releases such people from their responsibility, either outright or through light sentencing. Your concern for children is shallow.

 

No one says it directly. But anyone who thinks that civilian ownership of semi automatic rifles like an AK 47 is OK is saying it indirectly.

 

Same logic you used applied to automobiles(which “accidentally” kill more people than are killed with a firearm(suicides don’t count, body autonomy, right?) so I guess that means if anyone wants to own one, then they are indirectly saying they want babies to die too. Well wouldn’t you know it, using your logic, I, you, most of the posters here and millions and millions of people want babies to die.

I think your logic is flawed, but it’s what you got so enjoy that?

 

No, automobiles are not DESIGNED to kill. Weapons are. The primary purpose of ANY weapon is to kill. Semi automatics, like AK 47s, make it extremely easy and extremely efficient. No civilian needs to easily or efficiently kill.

 

That’s what makes it worse. Not designed to kill yet kills more.

Semi automatic rifles…. They are all the same. One trigger pull, one bullet. Does the same as a ranch rifle. You’re scared of a look, not what it can do. Rifles(all of them, including the ones you’re afraid of) kill less people than hands and feet. Tilting at windmills is not a good look.

 

Only in your mind. In reality, they are saying "I like shooting an AK47." By the way, why did you say it like that? Do you think that someone that owns a semi-auto AK47 thinks differently than someone that owns a full auto AK47 or someone that owns a semi-auto .22? In your head, does a semi-auto rifle seem more dangerous to you than a lever action rifle?

 

So making a man take responsibility for 18 years is not coercive responsibility but making a woman take responsibility for 18 years is…. Sexist much

 

I am scared of a weapon that has a rate of fire of over 100 rpm and a muzzle velocity of over 3,000 fps.

ZERO reasons a civilian needs such a weapon.

 

So you’re scared of all semi auto rifles period then, even though they all kill less people than hands and feet and way less people than something not designed to kill.

Yeah no one should listen to a scaredy cat. Besides, civil rights aren’t about needs are they? You don’t need to vote. You don’t need to have freedom of speech. You don’t need to not have soldiers quartered in your home. You don’t need a vehicle that can go over 5 mph. That’s too dangerous and someone might be killed!

Yeah, no one should listen to those who wish to remove civil rights from others.

 

No one should listen to someone who knows of the events of Uvalde TX and think, "You know what, we need MORE of those weapons on the street"

 

I think the events of Uvalde were messed up. Really wish the cops weren’t scaredy cats, and had done something. Unfortunately, they did nothing and many died. Sad, but I’m not trying to remove your rights because Bob in Massachusetts did something wrong. You, on the other hand, want to do just that. You’re the type of person that has zero issues removing someone’s civil rights. And this is a civil right. Just like voting. Just like freedom of speech.