Trump to judge who threatened to toss him in jail over gag order: 'Give me liberty or give me death'

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  1. StillBlue

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    Yet some jerk with a sharpie signed these with his signature. You probably just missed the photos. Oh the humanity!!!!
     
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    Probably was just someone that looked like him forging his signature. What is an honest tax payer to do?
     
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    (rips off mask) You can't fool me, copper! I know you are undercover. So you think you've caught the Sharpie Scribbler? Rest assured that I will strike again! (jumps out window)
     
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    Have you seen the photo of him jumping out the window? No? Well it seems a nail snagged his zipper and he apparently keeps a mushroom in his diaper. At least that's what it looked like to me. I wonder why?
     
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    With 99% certainty, yes, that is what it means.
     
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    I'm sure its no secret that I'm not a Trump fan. I, perhaps, could have sympathized with him that he was missing campaign efforts because of the trial. But he lost me completely by golfing on the one day he could have put in some solid campaigning. The whining HAS to stop!
     
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    How do you know it was a campaign contribution? Apparently it was a reimbursement to Cohen for the payments to the women.
     
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    No recreation allowed. Harsh.
     
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    . . . a payment that was a campaign contribution . . . which he went to jail for.
     
  10. MiaBleu

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    There is NO "political PERSECUTION . What there is , is prosecuting of a defendant who tried to cover up his behavior with pay offs , resulting in falsifying records in order to prevent his sleazy behavior from coming out before the election as he was afraid people would (rightly) think negatively of him as a candidate. He was wrong. His supporters don't care how far he goes to break the law / rules as they still support him. Because his supporters don't mind , he continues to lie and blame the system and play the victim. They are enabling his sick behavior. At this point he and they probably believe his lies to be truths.
    Bottom line. What he did was illegal. there are consequences for that kind of conduct . Folks can dissect each detail and look for reasons to rationalize his behavior , but they are just deluding themselves.
    Trump is being exposed for what he is . He is NOT a competent businessman, he is not a competent leader. He is a CON. and the facade he has built around himself through the years has cracked . There is no substance there.
    (any "policies" he might have had had no endurance.as they were just stop gap measures )
    No one cares about Trump's sexual proclivities. ( after all, Sex, power and money are all part of American politics ) It is the cover up . and the paper trail that defines his illegal conduct and motive for same.
     
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    Thank, but I don't share your opinions. Nor do I have your ability to read minds.
     
  12. MiaBleu

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    Or was it an AI version of The Donald doing all the signing??? :)

    It is known ( and has been reported by those that worked for him) that Trump is a tight wad when it comes to money......and hands on when it comes to paying bills ( or not paying them as he has been known to do)
     
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    I don't see any point you're probably going to refuse to learn the error of your ways because you're consumed by partisanship.
     
  14. MiaBleu

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    OK.......so if you ain't a mind reader.....then you can't claim that Trump is being "persecuted "

    One does not have to be telepathic to evaluate the information available , consider the "character" of the defendant to make a deduction about what is happening. (and what took pace)

    The fact that you see things differently is just fine.....as that is all part of this discussion. But if we can learn from each other , then we all benefit.
     
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    hmmmm. That explains a LOT ;-)
     
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    Trump's defense attorneys' strategy of avoiding trials, seeking delays and postponements rather than exercising his right to speedy ones, makes sense. They, no doubt, assessed the overwhelming amount of irrefutable, substantive evidence and sworn testimony (mostly by Republicans) against him, and were loathe to present their cases to juries of his peers.

    In the one case (other than those that established him as a sexual abuser and business fraud) he raved inanely rather than try to concoct a credible defense within the strictures of American jurisprudence.

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    The cry baby has insisted that he would take the stand in the trial and try to defend himself under oath, but he is lying yet again, of course.

    He remains impotent in acknowledging the will of the People as expressed in a democratic election in 2020, certified by all fifty states, despite being unable to offer credible evidence of his imaginary "stolen" election, or identifying who he imagines stole it, or how they did so.

    Will he exercise his free speech and testify concerning his paying hush money to bimbos to hide his skanky conduct for elective purposes (in the wake of the public disclosure of his braying that, as a celebrity, he is allowed to "grab them by the p*ssy")?

    Of course not. Blowing gas when he is not under oath arouses his worshipping parrots and does not constitute perjury. The witness chair in the Manhattan courthouse need not be concerned about ever having to support the skank's big flabby ass.


     
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    You missed the point. In order for this thing to be a crime Trump would have to have made the payments for the purpose of helping his campaign. He will say that the purpose was to hide his indiscretions from his family and that is most likely true. You, apparently know his motivation even though nobody else other than Trump does. Hence your mind reading skill. I don't like Trump either. But I think he made the payments to hide these trysts from the public and his family. It happens in similar situations. If the prosecutors had a recording or video of Trump saying that he was benefiting his campaign they would have brought it forward at the beginning of the trial and saved all the nonsense we have seen. They don't. They are guessing like and I are. In fact a win for them is keeping Trump from campaigning. Mission accomplished.
     
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    Instead of using his camera time after each day in court to trash the legal system and the judge...........he could use that time to campaign. Free air time too. and vast publicity. If he came out and started talking about what he plans to do IF elected again.....and start defining some specifics about potential policies......... even I would pay attention to what he had to say.(IF it was presented in a coherent , factual l ,non angry way)
    Otherwise he is just abusing that time with vitriol., repeating himself ad nauseum.
    And No it is not "mind reading" It is basic ( and some professional) psychology. It is important to understand human behavior in situations like this. Good lawyers are very psychologically astute. It is human behavior that is on trial.... represented by one man who has conned his way through his entire life. The sad thing is that he does not know any better. That makes him quite disordered. ( psychologically) He does not know how to handle his emotions maturely......and responsibly. The only thing that matters to him is HIM. He is easily threatened on many levels. and is unstable. This is observable behavior. Most leaders on the planet see this as well and are concerned about another term with him in office. In the meantime this drama ufolds. ( very AMERICAN style ;-)
     
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    No, a red herring is completely ignoring the point and making up your own lies. I never said Trump was a pedo or murderer. I was making the point that once a person is under arrest or awaiting trial, they sometimes lose rights such as being able to possess firearms, freedom of travel, and sometimes just lose freedom in general get and get stuck in jail. There is nothing unconstitutional about that. You will learn that.
     
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    So? He has a constitutional right to criticize authority figures and government entities as a necessary and essential function of democracy.

    He also has a right to defend himself publicly and in court and so if the witnesses issue public criticism or ridicule, he has a right to respond and defend himself.

    No judge is given power to stop his speech. The constitution gives no judge such power and Congress is specifically forbidden from making any such laws.
     
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    The first amendment is a god given right.... Merchan is not god...
     
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    Its not.
     
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    The sexual abuser is not above the law.

    No American being tried for a crime is licensed to attack and malign officers of the court, witnesses, jury members, etc.

    The degenerate lied when he said he is not allowed to speak.

    If he has anything he wants to say concerning the charges, he can take the stand and swear to tell the truth.
     
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    For someone with a small gag order......Trump has a LOT to say about the Judge , the system and being a victim. His time could be better spent talking about his plans for when he is in office again IF that should happen. Trump has become so repetitive ...that one puts him on ignore now.
     
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    All American citizen have the 1st Amendment right to speak out about officers of the court, witnesses, jury members, etc.

    attack and malign are such harsh words.... because Trump not attacking or maligning the court or witnesses, he is simply "describing" them..

    And no Trump has not said anything harmful about anyone in the jury, he is just describing the obvious bias in the number of voters in that section...
     

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