What Good Exists In The Right-Wing?

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Conservatives are very good at stopping liberals once it becomes apparent the leftist losers are out to destroy America. You know, like in last November's elections?

    Just wait til 2012 when the plot thickens. ;)
     
  2. Jet57

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    And so, you can't answer the question either.

    right
     
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    Some people are smart, other people have smart mouths.
     
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  4. Jet57

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    Uh, I'm sorry, but, uh, did you go to school? Can you actually read a book?

    Nathen Bedord Forest and Albert Pike et al were the ones who founded the KKK.

    I'll bet you don't know whay they did it in Pulasky Tennessee . . .
     
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    Reading a book isn't something you can go to school for, you have to be born with it.
     
  6. Jet57

    Jet57 Banned

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    There's just no help for some. Best thing that can be done for those; of the unfornate variety, is to throw them an anchor.
     
  7. Jack Ridley

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    How am I off-topic? You asked me what was good about the 'Right-Wing', and I asked you what 'Right-Wing' meant. How do you expect me to answer this question without a precise answer.

    Self-proclaimed 'Right-Wingers' and their opponents have many different definitions of 'Right-Wing', that much should be obvious.
     
  8. Smartmouthwoman

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    There is no question... merely flame-bait.
     
  9. TREDRE

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    A great deal of much needed opposition to the equally flawed left wing. Either fool who argues a capitalist society over a communist society will use no real example of either of them in their debate.

    The actual value of socialism should be discussed by all sides of the spectrum as the DEMANDED structure and get on with it. Show me a society that isnt socialist in this world. All communist countries we have right now are socialist states with goal of communism. Its nice that they suggest they are already there.

    If your smart you want moderate socialism. There is no "capitalist nation" that isnt at least moderately socialist.

    The problem with both left and the right is they use extreme arguements and pessimistic theories. Alot of people on both sides can be criminal in what they want.
     
  10. kilgram

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    Let's see nowadays we are facing an important crisis of the capitalism and it is only the beginning.

    The problem is that the system, the capitalism is very inestable, whatever how is it used, but in the end will make the system crash.
     
  11. Daggdag

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    Putting the entire right wing in 1 group is dumb. There are several different types of right wingers...

    There are the far righters who tend to base their political views on their personal religious views...then there are the moderate conservatives who tend to be more incline for using compromise and working with other parties to find ways to solve issues......Then there are the nutjobs like Sarah Palin
     
  12. creation

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    Nonsense.

    The right wing of politics share a common set of ideals and priorities. Some simply take it to greater extremes than others.
     
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    Again nonsense. But call it investments or spending or whatever.

    Historically US Public investment has been enornmously successful. It even got you to the moon.
     
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    And has been too inept to get us back
     
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    The right.. hrm. Well they do promote fiscal liberty and verbal liberty for offensive groups. But in both cases they go to far.
     
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    I discovered long ago that the folk squealing the most loudly about controls forcing civility are the ones who cannot carry their positions in a free exchange of ideas.
     
  17. Jet57

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    THE ADEMDUM

    The thread has gone on for some pages now, and the results of the question speak for themselves.

    The one thing that set me aback every time I run this thread, is that those who are most definately regular right-wing posters, miss the most fundemtal of issues with respect to obvious answers to the OP challenge.

    1) The health and welfare of any American. Where is the right-wing on this issue? All talking points and rhetoric. What have those of the modern right-wing, or right-wingers past, actually done to raise that standard? They certainly haven't led the charge to make any of it less expensive, nor introduced anything to make it more accessable. What has the right-wing done to end hunger in America? What has the right-wing done to put and end to poverty in America?

    2) Education: What has the right-wing done to make education more accesable? What program has the right-wing spearheaded to balance out the quality of public education? How has the right-wing made higher education less expensive and more accessable in order to create a broader base of educated ideas?

    3)A fair and accessable employment market. Where is the right wing with respect to the right of collective barganing? How has the right-wing actually created a broader based job market that is open to all skill levels? How has the right-wing made supporting a family any easier? (Supporting a family during the strong labor movement was instant and lasting). What has the right-wing done to actually raise the standard of living in this country?


    Those are just three very obvious social and political points that no right-wingers who participate in this thread even think to note as successes/u] nor something that the right-wing has even tried to improve.

    As we see in the responses, all the right-wingers note is communism and security: the militaristic ideology of the nationalistic right-wing.

    I find this thread to be very enteresting experiment. It always comes out the same; those progressives who engage it, do it thoughtfully and try and contribute to the idea. Those of the right-wing almost immeditately go for the more agressive less socially appealing international issues or they make up things like "caplitalism", "prevented socialism" etc etc. As of last night 1/17, that was the base of their contributions. Of course what they add is easily questioned as unfounded and once that happens, the right-wing posters invariably begin attack the question and the questioner. The OP question is "one sided", "partisan", or has some sort of nefarious motive behind it, when in actuallity, it is very objevctive rudementary question seeking a consistent positive set of answers, and the right-wing never gets it.

    Very telling: the right-wing then obviously has contributed nothing of any positve force to this country or anybody in it but the corps.
     
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    The question of American imperialism -- whether or not it's a positive thing for America and/or the people imperialized (not a word yet) -- is a good one.

    I think that the word 'empire' indicates, or at least implies, that various states have been put together forcibly, against their will. I don't think that works out in the long run. It's a tempting mistake for a civilization to make, and lots of them have, but they all fall apart.

    I think that a union of willing participants, however, can last a very long time.

    Democracy is not something that can be forced on people with good results. The first thing they'll do is vote to end it, whether they mean to or not.

    But the possibility of people coming together out of their own free will, to accomplish what could not be accomplished separately -- that's what America's all about, and I wouldn't mind seeing that spread around the world.
     
  19. Jack Ridley

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    Should the health an welfare of Americans be improved? Should health care be less expensive, should more people be able to have it? Should hunger be ended? Should poverty be ended?
    Should education be more accessible? Should should the quality of public schools be balanced?
    Should we have more collective bargaining? Should the job market be more open? Should supporting a family be easier? Should the standard of living be raised?
    Should they be improved?
    Should positive forces exist?
     
  20. Jet57

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    The questionn is: what has teh right-wing done for this country that can be considered good?

    And you can't answer it, none of you righties can. That's the point.
     
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    Nice duck. Hey, if ya can't answer, then just say so.
     
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    How about this? We the Conservatives will take the Consitution, and our guns...you Liberals take your *insert whatever document you want*, and your tofu. We divide the land up equally. And check back in a couple years...then you will see how much you really really need the "right-wing" you will be begging to enter our space...but, don't forget we are ARMED.
     
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    Why are you assuming those are good things?

    Why are you assuming that it is the obligation of the right wing or anyone else to encourage those things?

    Why are you assuming that life should inevitably "get easier"?
     
  24. Jack Ridley

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    Can you answer any of those questions?
     
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    I stopped reading right there.
     

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