Nebraska has joined several other states in introducing a "birther" bill

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    {quote} a piece of legislation that would require proof of U.S. citizenship from candidates for the nation's highest political offices.

    The 14-page bill, sponsored by District 44 State Sen. Mark Christensen of Holdrege, would prohibit placing presidential and vice presidential candidates on the state's ballot unless they provide a certified, long-form version of their birth certificate to Nebraska's secretary of state. {quote) http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1700284.html

    And so, Nebraska is joining Arizona, Texas, Minnesota, Connecticut in introducing legislation that would (should) prevent controversy, slowly brewing under our president's skinny ars. The big question is WHY? The Minnesota State Sen. Mark Christensen said it best: "Whenever you have a large amount of citizens who have doubts, it hurts our government. It hurts the integrity of the government," Christensen said.

    I fully agree with Minnesota senator. I also believe, this is just a beginning and more and more States will be introducing similar legislations.
     
  2. Montoya

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    Obama will present his COLB and the state will be forced to accept it like every other state.
     
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    I look forward to the vast majority of states introducing similar legislation.
    There is a price to pay for the O-bots constantly repeating a dishonest line of defense to give Richard Millhouse Obama cover.
     
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    Pres. Obama didn't carry Nebraska and certainly won't in 2012. If he can't produce the documents they want this bill won't change his chances of winning. Same in AZ.

    It will potentially provide an impediment to the Republican candidates, however, because there are many Citizens that can't produce this kind of documentation depending on which state and how they were born.
     
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    Oh im sure they will overlook this once a white candidate runs.
     
  6. Yosh Shmenge

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    Ahhhh, charging indiscriminate blanket racism.

    The new last refuge of a scoundrel.
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would not Obama be able to produce "the documents they want"? In other words, what you're saying is that even if Obama cannot satisfy the state requirement, teh hell with that State - there are other states that don't care?

    WHAT REQUIREMENT COULD BE EASIER TO SATISFY THEN THE "ORIGINAL, LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE"? Everyone has one :mrgreen:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't be so sure - if anyone does it, there'll be hell to pay. Nah, your racist card won't fly
     
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    Christensen's bill would also require candidates to provide their parents' certified long-form birth certificates. If a person's birth father is unknown, Christensen said a candidate would have to file an affidavit with the state, stating that they have no reason to believe their father is not a U.S. citizen.

    lmao uhm...what?
     
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    I will so laugh my ass off if bills/future laws like that prevent Obama from getting on the ballot in even ONE state.

    Red, blue, etc, it'll just be another damming blow to his credibility.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me explain the meaning of it with just two words - single allegiance.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The most importantly, if he fails to submit his original long form, it'll be an admission of guilt on his part... won't it be? And to be one step ahead of the likes of rahl and other *******s that COLB is all Obama will have to submit, I am happy to disappoint them - legislatures will specifically require candidate to submit an original long form BC, which COLB is not.
     
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    I'm quite sure that the leaders of many of these respective state governments are grinning and enjoying directing this new law directly @ Obama.

    I wouldn't hide it, (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Oh I certainly agree. Crafting a law designed specifically to try to eliminate a specific candidate from the ballot is surely a sign of a great Democracy.

    Putting in a states own interpretation of what is eligible is even more fun.

    Personally, I am going to advocate that California require candidates submit an affidavit that they are not and have not ever been a Republican in order to be on the Presidential ballot.

    That would be just as consittutional, and just as warrented as these laws crafted specifically because some whacko state legislatures don't trust the State of Hawaii.

    By the way- what if the State of Hawaii crafts a law that specifically excludes from its ballot any candidate from a state that disallows a candidate born in Hawaii from being on the ballot?

    This is just going to be so much fun. If any of these laws pass, the teeth gnashing and hair pulling by birthers when the courts throw them out will be amusing to watch.
     
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    and when obama presents his COLB again, this state, along with all the others will be forced to accept it via the FF&C. If they refuse, they will be drug into federal court and compelled to accept it.
     
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    the official birth certificate for the state of hawaii is the COLB and the only one they issue. every state is constitutionally bound by they FF&C to accept it.
     
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    is not mentioned anywhere in any eligibility language in the constitution.
     
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    Why would it be an admission of anything?

    First of all, even if stupidly crafted laws like this pass(more on that), citizens who suspect that their candidate was being disenfranchised by unconstitutional language would file suit and have the law struck down long before the election.

    Secondly, the State of Hawaii has said they have copies of President Obama's original birth certificate. If such a law was likely to prevent the President from being on the ballot, the State of Hawaii would likely just change their law/policy to allow the Department of Health to send a copy of the original birth certificate to a state to validate birth.

    Or Hawaii would sue Nebraska and the others themselves.

    What I am looking forward to are the Republican candidates who won't be able to provide the documents Nebraska requires.

    My bet- if any Republican candidate cannot provide the required documents, Nebraska will change the law to accomodate him or her- because this is all about politics, not about the law.
     
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    and they will then get their asses drug into federal court. a state can not tell another state what kind of birth certificate they have to issue. that's why we have the FF&C in the constitution.
     
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    Wrong! Every candidate should be able to provide his original, certified, long form birth certificate (unless he was born at home which Obama claims he was not or lost, which Hawaii says it is not). Care to site other possibilities?
     
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    lol and their parents apparently.

    sorry adopted candidates...youre (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They'll work the language of legislations down, don't you worry about.

    5 (five) States and counting...Going to be an interesting year 2012, don't you think so? :mrgreen:
     
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    We've all gone loco!
     
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    how would a candidate be able to provide a long form, if that particular state doesn't issue them?
     
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    yes, and long form will vanish with the requirements for the parents
     

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