Nebraska has joined several other states in introducing a "birther" bill

The law is not the same for everyone.

It differentiates between those whose parents are citizens and those who aren't.

It differentiates between those who have original birth certificates and those whose states- such as Nebraska- don't even provide them anymore.

Frankly, I am rather surprised it just didn't get more pointed and say that this is required only if the father is supposedly Kenyan.

And as far as we can tell- he has nothing more to hide than any other Presidential candidate or President- considering we have seen 'original birth certificates of exactly zero Presidential candidates"

 

Look at how hard the leftists fight against legislation that makes sure we never get a rotten apple like Obama gaming the constitution anymore. Surely they recognize on a very deep level how he's subverted the system.

 

I said:

If only Nebraska had made the slightest effort to make their law Constitutional.

If only Nebraska had cared more about the Constitution than a political stunt aimed at one particular politician that they disagree with.

Unlike the birther whacko's who are only looking for any reason to disenfranchise the voters who elected President Obama, I actually support a Constitutionally valid law that would require Presidential candidates prove their eligiblity.

I think it is bad policy though to craft a law designed entirely to disqualify a sitting President, regardless of his eligiblity.

I don't know whether I worded my statement poorly or if you are just being you.

The proposed Nebraska law would disqualify President Obama, even though he is eligible under the Constitution. That is because it would require that he prove that his father was an American citizen, which of course is not part of the Constitution, and just a birther dream.

Again my point- designing a law to disqualify from the ballot a sitting President- who is eligible- by putting unconstitutional requirements into the law is bad policy. Designing any law for the sole reason of disqualifying any specific politician from the ballot is not only poor policy, its is un-American.

 

Funny how when a black guy gets the job, the rules change....

 

Of course maybe I have it all wrong- maybe Nebraska just wants to disqualify Bobby Jindal.

 

No, and I am not surprised that a Birther doesn't get the point.

What I have always advocated is that President Obama be treated exactly the same as every other President and Presidential candidate.

Birthers advocate that he should be treated differently.

Laws designed to address the fears of a few individuals by designing parameters for the sole purpose of eliminating the candidacy of one candidate, regardless of whether the law is Constitutional or not is bad for Democracy.

A great law follows the Constitution and applies to all candidates. There is no restriction in the Constitution or by law that a Presidential candidate must provide a original birth certificate- quite frankly most of our Presidents would not have been able to qualify. There is no requirement that a President who is born in the United States prove anything at all about his parents- nor should there be.

A serious law, designed to address whether candidates were born in the United States and met the age requirements would require a state issued document to establish that fact, that was transmitted directly from the state to Nebraska state officials.

I frankly do not know how proof of meeting the residency requirement would be achieved. I guess perhaps copies of the candidates passport- but what if he doesn't have a passport? You do agree don't you that the residency requirement is just as much a requirement as the natural born requirement correct? How would you propose a proof of residency that is as strong as the proof of birth requirement?

 

Liberals always struggle with the law. Horrendously so.

 

The Constitution ‘s requirement for eligibility for The Potus clearly and without any doubt distinguishes between NBC and a citizen born in the US – unless you accuse the FF in tautology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(rhetoric)

And obviously as the CC stated – “it is not a matter of a mere geographical accident” when a KGB/ Al Queda cell sleeper makes a child with an American girl and then takes the child back to the USSR and puts him in a KGb/Al Queda school and in an environment of his KGB family and KGB brothers in law for years.

In all of all such a child can apply and/or be given American citizenship – provided his mother snitched him back - but those who keep on argueing that as well he may be eligible for running for the POTUS hate the constitution and the FFs and the history of the US and the US and common sense.

 

A sign that maybe you should shut your yap.

 

lol, from your link..........

 

so we come full circle and admit his parents birth certs arent relevant if (as I said) he was born in hawaii.

why make an argument and then avoid it?

 

Thank you for setting the record straight

 

Foremost, it has everything to do with being unilaterally loyal to the country you lead. Especially in the eyes of your citizen, so the crap like this will never happen again.

 

LoL SFJEFF.... first there were a few nutjobs, then a few whack-jobs, then a few birther whackos... and now we have 10 (TEN!) States of the Union drafting legislation that will require Obama (and the other candidates) to submit their long form birth certificates for examination... when it is going to be 20 (TWENTY!) States, are you still gonna call the movement a few birther whackos?

 

After reading your usual wall of text, what was the question or a statement again? That Nebraska's congress is made of stupid people? How about the other 9 States, considering similar legislation? What if 2 months from now, another 10 States will join in the effort to prevent this uncomfortable situation from ever repeating itself?

But I already know what you gonna say - these whackjobs, trying to force the president to show his birth certificate... how stupid of them...

 

But it did not say anything about one's father being born in Kenya, right?

How's it again the proposed legislation is tilted in favor of Obama's future opponents? Please, one or two examples will suffice...

 

where in the constitution does it mention citizen parents as a requirement for the POTUS?

 

thank you for quoting the constitution in your answer.

 

Are you disputing the intent of our forefathers or are you saying, single loyalty is not something to be concerned with? And suppose, next we have a candidate born to an American mother and self-admitted Hezbollah fighter. Would you also not have problem with supporting this candidate?

 

how does a baby have loyalties?

 

I hate to break it to you....

if hes born here, both his parents can be hezbollah fighters and hes still eligible.

 

but obviously NOT electable lol

 

The rotten apples are the ones like yourself who are so desperate to disenfranchise the votes of 70 million American citizens, and so willing to tear up the Constitution in order to remove the President that they fear and despise.

How can he possibly have subverted 'the system' when he has followed the exact same rules as every other President?

You keep insisting that this President- and this President only be treated differently than every other President- because there are internet rumors and gossip about him.

2 years after his election by 70 million voters, you keep pretending that someone will find some reason why that election couldn't have possibly happened, and that Barack Obama just can't be President. You aren't sure why, but you by golly there must be some reason.

 

exactly, which is why we dont need to pretend NBC has a different meaning

 

I gotta love it.

Lets look at Nebraska shall we? One state legislator has proposed legislation, because he received 2 or 3 emails. So based upon the evidence we have, 4 people care about this in Nebraska. Extrapolate out to 10 states and add Chris Matthews and that is what 34 people?

Yes, I will continue to call them all whackjobs. Some are just gullible. Some are doing it for political reasons. Others are in it to make a buck.