Newt Gingrich says passion for U.S. made him cheat

What do you mean discuss the divorce? Yes a FAR different matter than 'going to the hospital and forcing her to sign divorce papers while she languished in suffering'. The divorce was under way before she became ill, it did not stop when that happened so ANY time they were together that the divorce might come up is perfectly reasonable. The claim is he went to the hospital and somehow put her through some kind a torture for the shear pleasure of doing so.

He says it didn't happen at all, she balks on it.

So prove it, beyond a doubt, or withdraw the smear.

 

Why would anyone defend Newt Gingrich?

Liberals defend their scumbags. Conservatives don't.

 

Nah- I will go with the published report that I quoted.

I have never seen Newt deny it. I have never seen any rebuttal at all to the claim.

You call it a smear- prove to me that it didn't happen. You are big on an affirmative defense- if Newt didn't do it, then you should be able to easily find his clear unequivocal denial.

All I have seen his him saying that he regrets some of his past behaviours.

 

Well I think the burden is to PROVE it DID happen. Prove he served his wife divorce papers at the hospital.

If someone is going to smear Gingrich with phoney rumours THEY better bring something to back up their version of the story.

You guy sure justified Clintons, why does Gingrich have to justify his which were not simply indiscriminate sex. Yes it is a tragedy when a marriage falls apart, even more so one of the parties falls in love with someone else and leaves the marriage. And if you want to state that such behavior should prohibit someone from holding office then say so, else what is your point?

 

Yep. Newt cheated on her while she had cancer, then left her. He later cheated on the first mistress with another mistress while preaching about Bill Clinton's Lewinsky affair.

Collectively worse than John Edwards really, but the hypocritical partisans don't mind because Newt is a Republican.

Imagine if a Democrat used this excuse for infidelity:

"There's no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate."

Wow, sorry I cheated on you baby. I just love my country with so much passion I couldn't resist!

 

Oh just because it is published somewhere that means it is true. Well I will gladly take such liberties in ALL of our post from now on.

In the meantime what is the source of the claims in your article other than pure conjecture by the author? What is the EVIDENCE of this it presents?

It doesn't, there is no evidence it was a made up story meant to smear him from the git-go.

Bet you never looked either.

ROFL...................oh it's NOT!

And again, you don't now what he is talking about in his statement the whole OP us about.

Why don't you go read up on him before you smear him.

 

Frankly I just don't see why you are so compelled to defend the man that cheated on both of his first two wives, didn't pay child support, was reputed to have had multiple other affairs, had 84 ethics charges filed against him and was reprimanded for ethics violation by the House on a vote of 395 to 28, and penalized $300,000.

 

Mother Jones ... eh.Wasn't that the extreme Liberal newsrag Michael Moore
started inbetween stints at being a agitator for SDS.
Like far be it from Moore to ever lie.
His Lies are near catastrophic.Surely legendary.
Does Munchausen Syndrome ring-a-dinghy.

 

Yes his marriage had already fallen apart and the divorce in process. And his second one fell apart too and he met someone else and married her.

But do give me an example of Gingrich preaching about Clinton's affair with Lewinsky.

Edwards tops them all, barely topping Clinton in lieu of what he did to his own child which was a result of his illicit affair. Remember his marriage supposedly was still solid, it was not falling apart in the divorce process or consideration and he falls in love with someone else.

And what is he talking about? What happened in his first marriage? Do you even know who it was he married?

Nope that's not what he was saying.

 

Its between Newt and the ex wives, not Newt and us just as it was between Bill and Hillary.

 

So you have never seen Newt deny it either.

I thought you said he had denied the whole thing?

This is the best I could come up with:
"I am not going to argue every point of that story, but I will say that it painted a picture of me that is essentially untrue."

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/03/08/gingrich_divorce_hospital_cancer

Here's how Mother Jones recounted Newt's hospital visit with Jackie, who was her husband's former high school math teacher:


Jackie had undergone surgery for cancer of the uterus during the 1978 campaign, a fact Gingrich was not loath to use in conversations or speeches that year. After the separation in 1980, she had to be operated on again, to remove another tumor While she was still in the hospital, according to Howell, "Newt came up there with his yellow legal pad, and he had a list of things on how the divorce was going to be handled. He wanted her to sign it. She was still recovering from surgery, still sort of out of it, and he comes in with a yellow sheet of paper, handwritten, and wants her to sign it.

The source was Lee Howell, a former Gingrich campaign press secretary who had been the editor of the student newspaper at West Georgia College, where Gingrich was a history professor. As Osborne told me this week: "Most Gingrich staff people felt burned by the time they left. Howell was one of those people. But I also got [the story] from Jackie."

Interestingly, the hospital bed visit was hardly the most salacious detail in the piece -- though some of the other material was based on anonymous sources:


One former aide describes approaching a car with Gingrich's daughters in hand, only to find the candidate with a woman, her head buried in his lap. The aide quickly turned and led the girls away. Another former friend maintains that Gingrich repeatedly made sexual advances to her when her husband was out of town. On one occasion, he visited under the guise of comforting her after the death of a relative, and instead tried to seduce her. In certain circles in the mid-1970s, Gingrich was developing a reputation as a ladies' man.


A few months later, after the Mother Jones piece had been sent around en masse by Gingrich's political enemies -- and placed in the Congressional Record by giddy Democrats -- he told the Washington Post: "I am not going to argue every point of that story, but I will say that it painted a picture of me that is essentially untrue."

That same Post profile quoted Jackie herself giving a slightly different version of the story (one that doesn't mention any legal pad):


"He can say that we had been talking about [a divorce] for 10 years, but the truth is that it came as a complete surprise," says Jackie Gingrich, in a telephone interview from Carrollton. "He's a great wordsmith ... He walked out in the spring of 1980 and I returned to Georgia. By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said Daddy is downstairs and could he come up? When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery ... To say I gave up a lot for the marriage is the understatement of the year."

Asked if, in fact, he handled the divorce as insensitively as portrayed, Gingrich responded: "All I can say is when you've been talking about divorce for 11 years and you've gone to a marriage counselor, and the other person doesn't want the divorce, I'm not sure there is any sensitive way to handle it."

 

ROFLMAO...............on now it's COMPELLED!

Why is it you have such a habit of having to frame the other persons arguments in some emotional light?

I'm only asking you to support your assertions which so far you have been unable to do.

And let's see your facts on that if you have any or are you just going to trust unsupported assertions?

Your "reputes" carry no weight here.

And 83 dismissed.

He paid the legal expenses and I bet you don't even know what that charge was.

 

Frankly, as long as he doesn't discuss "Defense of Marriage" or family values, I actually agree with you.

The fact that he is ethically challenged is not a surprise- we see tons of politicians who get exposed for being unfaithful to their wedding vows. Frankly the left jumps on those exposed of the right and the right jumps on those of the left who are exposed.

My real point is that Newt is not a viable Republican candidate- his past will be thrown back into the faces of conservative voters who do care about a candidates moral lapses every time he is standing up alongside a Palin or Romney.

 

Again it is full of assertions of things people wouldn't even know about. But nothing about serving divorce papers or that he was drooling at the mouth while he torture her in the hospital. The marriage had fallen apart, the divorce had been ongoing. Yes during a divorce there are times when things have to be discussed no matter the circumstances. Most of those you don't know nor anyone else.

Yes most people leave out the fact that she was his high school math teacher who had an affair with him and married him when he was 19 years old.

Sound like the makings of a long term relationship to you?

And he went to college and got his degrees and grew up and matured and decided he wanted to enter politics. To serve in government and that meant Washington. She didn't want it. He did. He pursued it she did not follow. The marriage fell apart. THAT is what he is talking about in his statement.

So you know what? I'd kinda give him a break on the first marriage he entered into as a kid who didn't know what he wanted in life and found out the marriage was a mistake.

 

Sorry. Wrong buckwheat. It is the story that has been reported for years and I have never heard anyone, even Newt, refute it. It is the truth uless you have something that would prove otherwise.

Once again, he's admitted to the affairs. It's not a smear.

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You're three for three. The people closest to Clinton were the most hurt bybhis betrayal. There was certainly not a lot of justifying going on. Did we defend him during the impeachment sham? He'll yes, but that was a different issue altogether.

Republicans have long made this sort of thing relevant in elections. A serial adulterer is definitely a factor.

A serial adulterer who serves his wife papers in the hospital really matters.

A serial adulterer who serves his wife in the hospital and who comes up with the lamest excuse imaginable and fails to truly take responsibility, really really really matters. He's an ass.

 

I gave you the links. You don't have to accept them. I notice you don't offer anything in rebuttal either.

It really is simple- Newt Gingrich cheated on his wives while he was married- both of this first two marriages. Whether you feel the story is substantiated or not, the story of him coming to his wife in the hospital and 'demanding' divorce is going to resonate with Republican woman voters- especially those whose husbands left them for a younger wife.

He is not a viable Republican candidate.

 

Dearest Dr Pepper,,,,,,,,


WE ALL KNOW THAT!!!!


The point is,,,,,,,what's between him and God is their business, not mine...AND NOT YOURS!!!!


No wonder you are 6th on the best soda list........LOL

 

No, Newt is not a viable candidate and only the Dems said he was. Never the Repubs. Tell you what though, Dem Spitzer did okay with the "girls of the night" and the Dem Govenor from NJ had a boyfriend while married. Is that ethically challanged or what?

 

Newt Gingrich says passion for U.S. made him cheat

HAWHAWHAWHAW ... what a croc of BS.... HawHawHaw .....

what made Newt cheat was a good looking gal in heels & a bottle o' wine....

10 toes up & 10 toes down makes the world go round and round....

Patriotism ain't got a dammn thing to do with it.... hawhawhawhaw....

Of course , Republicans has always enjoyed screwing the country , so maybe that's what Newt was talking about.....

 

Hey lots of your buddies right here are big Newt fans- they love his intellect.

I think Spitzer is worse than Newt- he was a prosecutor who prosecuted prostitutes- I can't think of anything more hypocritical than Spitzer's behaviour. I don't really remember the NJ governor, but I do remember South Carolina's and him "hiking the Appalachian Trail".

Won't be hard to find a nice litany of both Republican and Democratic sleazeball politicians to lump together with Newt.

But I will give you this- Newt is better than Spitzer.

 

This is truly a discusting ploy or play...whatever. This is the same guy who practically led the charge on impeaching Clinton for a sexual indiscreation. This guy was having an affair while he was doing the impeaching! But...God has forgiven him. I guess Clinton never had Gods pardon. Lucky Newt.

 

Hell, with all the politicians caught can you imagine how many are out there and done the same...WOW....There aint a dry Blue dress out there...LOL

 

He shoulda (*)(*)(*)(*)ed in his pants.

 

Oh I think the lie that he forced his wife to sign divorce paper was done away with from the get-go. You are left with he might have discussed something about the pending divorce and nothing more. Yeah sometimes during a divorce things have to be discussed.

No it's not quite that simple but is it your position that any politician who cheats on their wife is no longer worthy to serve in office else what is your point?

Why do you keep repeating a lie. He did not go to the hospital and "demand" divorce.

"Asked about the hospital story, Gingrich spokesman Rick Tyler told me: "He was taking his two daughters to see their mother in the hospital. When they were at the hospital they got in an argument. That is the extent of what happened." Asked about any yellow legal pad or discussion of divorce terms, Tyler said: "That didn't happen. It was unfortunate and regrettable that he got in an argument.""
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/03/08/gingrich_divorce_hospital_cancer/index.html

 

He said it contributed to the break up of his marriage and if you knew what you were talking about you would know that is true.